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dandit
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 12 Jan 2008    Post subject: possible scam? Reply with quote

Hi I will apoligise now for this being a long one but I just recieved this email after apllying online i'd like your thoughts? is this a scam or a genuine thing...............................


Payments Managers Needed Urgently
Anthony smith & son holding Ltd Group
Imports and Exports,General Merchants.
Unit 5, Wharram Street
Hull, HU2 0JB Humberside
United Kingdom.
Dear Candidate,
Anthony smith & son holding ltd in conjunction with
recruit Express, Company under the ownership of Mr. Anthony
Smith President/CEO.
SMITH & SONS HOLDINGS is a trading company that is into the
hire,
sales and
service of Electrical Trucks, Fork Trucks and associated
materials
handling equipments and diverse range of battery for
electric vehicles
which can be readily adapted for customer€™s specific
requirements to the America and selected locations in
Europe. seeks payment managers to our direct payments from
customers in the UK, USA,CANADA other EUROPEAN COUNTRIES,
AUSTRALIA and U.A.E .
WHAT YOU NEED TO DO FOR US?
The international money transfer tax for legal entities
(companies) in
UK is 25%, whereas for the individual it is only 7%.There
is no sense
for us to work this way, while tax for international money
transfer
made by a private individual is 7% .That's why we need you!
We need
agents to receive payment for our textiles( in money
orders, check or bank wire
transfers) and to resend the money to us via Money Gram or
Western
Union Money Transfer. This way we will save money because
of tax
decreasing.
JOB DESCRIPTION?
1. Receive payment from Clients 2. Cash Payments at your
Bank 3. Deduct
10% which will be your percentage/pay on Payment processed.
4. Forward
balance after deduction of percentage/pay to any of the
offices you will
be contacted to send payment to Payment is to be forwarded
either by
Money Gram or Western Union Money Transfer).
HOW MUCH WILL YOU EARN?
10% from each operation! For instance: you receive £7000
via checks
or money orders on our behalf. You will cash the money and
keep £700
(10% from £7000) for yourself! At the beginning your
commission will
equal 10%, though later it will increase up to 12%!
ADVANTAGES
You do not have to go out as you will work as an
independent contractor
right from your home office. Your job is absolutely legal.
You can earn
up to £3000-4000 monthly depending on time you will spend
for this job.
You do not need any capital to start. You can do the Work
easily without
leaving or affecting your present Job. The employees who
make efforts
and work hard have a strong possibility to become managers.
Anyway our
employees never leave us due to our excellent work
condition.
QUALIFICATION
This position does not require any educational
qualification but a bachelors degree or very good high
school record
will be an
added advantage, no experience is needed but should be able
to speak
his/her language fluently as well as understand an extra
language will
be
an added advantage. The individual should be highly
motivated,
sensitive, been a meticulous person is an added advantage.
NOTE: This Job is a part- time Job and has been designed in
such a way
that it does not affect your regular daily work.
Application deadline/expiry: six weeks after the broadcast
of this
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pwntifex
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 12 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at the haphazard capitalisation in the name.
Even from that early stage it's obvious it's a scam.

Also,

Quote:

We need
agents to receive payment for our textiles( in money
orders, check or bank wire
transfers) and to resend the money to us via Money Gram or
Western
Union Money Transfer. This way we will save money because
of tax
decreasing.

Classic 401 scam.
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 12 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scam. Don't touch with a bargepole.
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 12 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

thought as much
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 12 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're not convinced, that address apears to be Europa Industrial Supplies Ltd

Phone them and ask: 01482 338435

Might be a good idea to let them know about it anyway.
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PostPosted: 18:47 - 12 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get at least one email a day offering jobs like this.
Definitely a scam.
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 12 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's money laundering, or just conning you out of money, you honesty read a random email about a "job" and thought it was real? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 00:33 - 13 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
It's money laundering, or just conning you out of money, you honesty read a random email about a "job" and thought it was real? Rolling Eyes
well I did apply for it at first then I got that email with details
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PostPosted: 04:06 - 13 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Classic 'we'll give you loads, then you give us most of it back.

And then they bounce the cheque so you're out £7k.
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PostPosted: 06:30 - 13 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it looks like shit and smells like shit......
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 13 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems you are not alone

Check companies house when its open for online checks.

Be a money laundering scam.

Walk away now.
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 13 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
Seems you are not alone

Check companies house when its open for online checks.

Be a money laundering scam.

Walk away now.
the cheek of it if only I could stitch them up Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 13 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walk away now.[/quote] the cheek of it if only I could stitch them up Laughing[/quote]

I got this kind of offer and knew they were at it,but I fancied a laugh and let them crack on.
Two weeks later the cheque arrived,so I took it to the bank and had it verified(it was also a draft)It was a real account.
Meanwhile they were hounding for the money transfer but I wouldn,t answer their e-mails.
One week later it bounced Shocked .(stolen)So I e-mailed them and told them it has cleared and instead of transfering it could they come round and collect CASH.
They responded by saying it was immposible for them to come to the Isle of Man but they would send their representative.
I told them I would be looking forward to meeting them with a few of my homies,a pair of pliers and soldering iron. Laughing
Funny, I never heard from them again. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 13 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

manxscot wrote:
Walk away now.
the cheek of it if only I could stitch them up Laughing[/quote]

I got this kind of offer and knew they were at it,but I fancied a laugh and let them crack on.
Two weeks later the cheque arrived,so I took it to the bank and had it verified(it was also a draft)It was a real account.
Meanwhile they were hounding for the money transfer but I wouldn,t answer their e-mails.
One week later it bounced Shocked .(stolen)So I e-mailed them and told them it has cleared and instead of transfering it could they come round and collect CASH.
They responded by saying it was immposible for them to come to the Isle of Man but they would send their representative.
I told them I would be looking forward to meeting them with a few of my homies,a pair of pliers and soldering iron. Laughing
Funny, I never heard from them again. Thumbs Up[/quote] Laughing wouiuld be funny if it didnt bounce
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 13 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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got this kind of offer and knew they were at it,but I fancied a laugh and let them crack on.
Two weeks later the cheque arrived,so I took it to the bank and had it verified(it was also a draft)It was a real account.


You have to be very careful doing this, as the bank could easily report this to the police and they would be taking you for a nice cuppa.. Embarassed
These scams are well know to the banks, and they can/do crack down hard the the people involved.
You could also find the bank closing your account and finding it next to impossible to open another anywhere else.

By law any money laundering has to be reported to the police.... Believe terrorism is behind that, little change....
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 13 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
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got this kind of offer and knew they were at it,but I fancied a laugh and let them crack on.
Two weeks later the cheque arrived,so I took it to the bank and had it verified(it was also a draft)It was a real account.


You have to be very careful doing this, as the bank could easily report this to the police and they would be taking you for a nice cuppa.. Embarassed
These scams are well know to the banks, and they can/do crack down hard the the people involved.
You could also find the bank closing your account and finding it next to impossible to open another anywhere else.

By law any money laundering has to be reported to the police.... Believe terrorism is behind that, little change....
so should i be reporting this?
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 13 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being an off-shore accounts system I,m perticularly careful so I asked the manager before I deposited it.
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 13 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

manxscot wrote:
Being an off-shore accounts system I,m perticularly careful so I asked the manager before I deposited it.
so what should I do? report, forget or go for it
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 13 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

dandit wrote:
manxscot wrote:
Being an off-shore accounts system I,m perticularly careful so I asked the manager before I deposited it.
so what should I do? report, forget or go for it


Well,If was me now I,d forget about it but I,ve had my fun with them.
But it,s a good laugh when they still persist to try it again and you get in a really obusive slagging match. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 13 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

dandit wrote:
manxscot wrote:
Being an off-shore accounts system I,m perticularly careful so I asked the manager before I deposited it.
so what should I do? report, forget or go for it


Well,If was me now I,d forget about it but I,ve had my fun with them.
But it,s a good laugh when they still persist to try it again and you get in a really obusive slagging match. Thumbs Up[/quote] I'll leave it I think
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PostPosted: 07:33 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally i'd forget about it.
Let the banks worry about stuff like this.
£ to a penny that they are not tracable via email and won't be based in the UK.

If you want a bit of fun let them send the Chq, but just don't cash them... Say they never reached you.
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PostPosted: 07:55 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
Personally i'd forget about it.
Let the banks worry about stuff like this.
£ to a penny that they are not tracable via email and won't be based in the UK.

If you want a bit of fun let them send the Chq, but just don't cash them... Say they never reached you.
what about them cheque cashing places??? Confused
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about them cheque cashing places??? Confused[/quote]

When It does bounce(even worse when It,s found out to be stolen)The legality falls back to you if it,s cashed.
So the company who honours the cheqhe will pursue the recipitent of any monies gained.
Therefore YOU would be pursued,blacklisted,county court judgment or worst case bankrupt if not paid back.
Meanwhile anyone who has fell for this scam and paid these guys are now to the authorities eyes liable.
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

manxscot wrote:
what about them cheque cashing places??? Confused


When It does bounce(even worse when It,s found out to be stolen)The legality falls back to you if it,s cashed.
So the company who honours the cheqhe will pursue the recipitent of any monies gained.
Therefore YOU would be pursued,blacklisted,county court judgment or worst case bankrupt if not paid back.
Meanwhile anyone who has fell for this scam and paid these guys are now to the authorities eyes liable.[/quote] I just recived an email saying they are posting me a cheque if they do should I take it to the old bill or bin it
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frame it Exclamation
You can be the good samaritan Smile
But don,t try and cash it.
It,s a waste of time. Thumbs Up
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