I don't like pink (the colour) anyway!

Demonic69 · The Pink Rhino Joined: 31 May 2002 Karma :

I was told by an instructor and an examiner that you shouldn't filter as it's still a grey area in the law.
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Back on a Blade. Just feels so right.

Danny · Ask Me About Stoppie School Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Karma :

Well I think they're cleared it up. The main ambiguity with filtering and the law is what is the max filtering speed, afaik that is roughly 15mph above the other traffic speed.

Will · Spanner Monkey Joined: 22 Dec 2002 Karma :

Hi,

Just to pour more petrol on the fire, my instructor also told me not to filter at all on my test. Apparently instructors aren't all that keen on filtering. God knows why.

Cheers,

Will

Danny · Ask Me About Stoppie School Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Karma :

Has anyone safely filtered in their test and been failed for it?

Hands up those who have filtered on their test and passed with flying colours?
/ me raises hand.

From what i've been told by both instructors and examiners you will get failed if there is room to filter and your sitting there behind a car like a pleb. Unless you've had a very good ride, in which case they'll probably let you off.

Shaun · Likes 'em bent Joined: 17 May 2003 Karma :

You will not get failed for not filtering. If you do decide that you are going to filter then it must be done safely otherwise you will fail for it. Thats what I was told by my instructor and I'm just not going to bother filtering to be on the safe side.

WildGoose · White Van Man Joined: 21 Mar 2002 Karma :

there is no way you will be marked down if there is an opportunity to filter and you refuse it

filtering is a benefit of a motorcycle, its not a set in stone way of riding, if you start filtering on a test it opens up all these extra things the examiner can pick you up for

sitting patiently in traffic would be far recommended over filtering, it also passes the 35 mins covering less distance which is less possible ground to make a mistake, sit in traffic constantly checking your mirrors and covering the back brake, will gain you far more credit than trying to filter

overtaking is different, dont sit behind a bus, if its stopped just because its easier, but id recommend leave the filtering for when you pass your test and learn to ride properly
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So in other words, he stopped you for being flagrantly in posession of a motorcycle in direct contravention of the Hippies, Darkies and People Whose Face I Don't Like The Look of (Police Powers) Act. 1976

Demonic69 · The Pink Rhino Joined: 31 May 2002 Karma :

rs125 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 03 May 2002 Karma :

exxon-jen · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 30 Nov 2003 Karma :

Unlucky lad........my mate got failed by being just under 5 minutes late due to an accident happening on the only route to the test centre........the examiner listened to his reason, allowed him to sweat for a couple of minutes then just said 'You have failed. Looks like u have wasted not only your own time and money but mine too' - and walked back into his office to write out the fail sheet!

It nearly put him off going in for it a 2nd time, he was that mad! Anyway he did, and passed 4 weeks later with the same examiner!

So good luck and dont give up......big bike heaven is well worth the stress!!
Very Happy

exxon-jen · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 30 Nov 2003 Karma :

Danny · Ask Me About Stoppie School Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Karma :

Well I know some examiners (maybe its just local ones Confused

) will fail you if you sit in traffic for ages when you can safely filter.

But each to their own, if your taking lessons from a local training school they should know what that particular examiner(s) is like. I was told to filter only when there was a long line of cars and when it was safe, so it doesn't mean you have to filter like a London courier.

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

When we are talking filter, are we actually talking 'filter' or 'overtake'.

I can see the overtake thing being classed as reasonable, however I can see all sorts of problems if someone was failed for not filtering, then say got hit in their next test when they were filtering.

rs125 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 03 May 2002 Karma :

On DAS your expected to make reasonable progress, which means if its safe to overtake a slow car on an A road you should. On a 125 your not expected to overtake moving cars.

If you filter you risk being marked down for being too close to a stationary car or too close to a car coming the other direction.

You should also give cycleists the same room when overtaking as you would if you were in a car.

Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Overtaking if you're able to do so without breaking the law is perfctly reasonable on a 125 in your test. Smile

You're not expected to overtake in your test unless there is a time when you should be. IMO you're best bot overtaking unless it is a tractor or something stupidly slow as there is so much more they can fail you on if you do an overtake Smile

andrew · Mister Road Rage Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Karma :

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M1ke · Ped Boi Joined: 11 Jun 2002 Karma :

I out accelerated some old biddy on the duel carriage way on my bike test (using a crap 125 4 stroke that wouldn't go much over 65mph)

Just shows you how slow some car drivers are.

Mrs_Hippy · The Pink Lady Joined: 07 Jul 2002 Karma :

From what I remember my instructor said that if I was not seen to be making 'reasonable progress' then it would mark against me as being overly hesitant and over cautious. I don't think she meant filtering though and in this area not going to the front of the que during the day only leaves you a few cars back so I didn't filter.

Shaun · Likes 'em bent Joined: 17 May 2003 Karma :

Been on a lesson tonight so I asked my instructor about it. You will not get failed for not filtering, if you do filter then it does open up a whole new things that you could get failed on so it is best not to filter. You will not fail for not making progress, you will only fail on that if you are not travelling at the speed limit when possible.