2 questions about points on license

[colin1]

When you get points on your license, are they dated of the date of the offence, or the date that a court finds you guilty ?

If you get 6 points within your first two years, do you have to go through a car test and a bike test again to get a license again ?
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[LustyLew]

Points are valid from date of convictions.

I.e. A speed camera will be from the day you were caught.

If in court, it'll be the date the judge/magistrate passes sentence.
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[Itchy]

#2 only on your first licence thus if you passed your car in 98 and passed your bike in 2007 , the new drivers act doesn't apply.

and resitting any of your prior categories gets you back all your entitlements, hence Stink's musings on taking bike test on a step through ped.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Points go from the date of the offence.

Entirely possible to go through enough appeals, etc, that the points have expired by the time you are finally convicted. Wouldn't recommend it though.

All the best

Keith
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[Fawbish]

My mate had his court date today, he got 6 points, and a £250 fine. I think his points are going to go from the offence, but he wasnt sure, it might be from today.


He has to retake his licence, as soon as they send him a letter that reverts him back to a provisional. He also begins his two years restriction, again, which would have ended in september. Bummer, lol.


Colin, yes, you do (well, its but oh well lol)
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[the grim reaper]

I haven't said this but it has been known for it to take ages and ages to get convicted if you just ignore the NIPs. Then you will probably get 3 points and a large fine but how much does it cost to do your test these days?

Cheers

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[colin1]

It turns out that I could have answered this question myself, if I'd looked on the counterpart bit of my license before i gave it in.

In the endorsements section, the date column is headed date of CONVICTION, not date of offense, so I'm ok.

If it had been date of offense, the six points would have made me have to retake my license as it would have been within the two years.

So I'm very relieved.

Ive had it back in the post today, with my offense written in with the date being the date of conviction..
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Offences stay on licences for 4 years but depends on the offence as to whether that is from the date of the offence or of conviction:-

https://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/EndorsementsAndDisqualifications/DG_4022550

Most offences it is 5 years from the date of the offence.

Seems really strange.

As such for the 2 year / 6 point limit not sure.

From a scamera partnership web site:-

https://www.speedaware.org.uk/faq.aspx#43

points add up for totting up purposes for 3 years from the date of the offence.

All the best

Keith
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[colin1]

I think in reality, as the date recorded on the license is the date of conviction, they will have to work from that date rather than date of offense. I think that will be the way it works for totting up points as well.
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[steveh]

just a quick question, sorry to hyjack, but it may be of help to others too.


If i got done for speeding within my 2 year restriction, then summonds to coart a fair few months after my restriction, are there any other penaltys.


Steve.
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[Kickstart]

[steveh]

offence before, summons 3 months after.?

cheers, Steve
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[Walloper]

We used to have a Back Street lawyer on bcf. Who advised on all matters legal.
He was a little over sensitive and didn't last long in the bcf 'Hall of Justice'

But I think Kickers hit it on the head.

Points from date you committed the offence.

And appeals are seldom/never free if they go in favour of the prosecution. These folk hate to get played with.
Do not forget they are much better and much more cleverer than anyone else out there in 'real life'.

And it's OK to fess up on bcf to getting caught if it really was you and not your mate .
We're all tear-aways anyway and you might get karma for points.

Points are subject to the rehabilitation of offenders act.
Therefore the points will must be declared for five years after the offence but can only be considered valid for insurance totting up for three years.

Police are also not permitted to look at any part of the licence other than: Name, Address, and Class of Vehicle Entitlement.
This is to prevent one of the scum suckers the government employ from weighting his judgement to book you based on the chance conviction would get you jail or a ban. (Which none of them would really do anyway )
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[steveh]

yeah i got done 84 in a 60, i wanted to seek legal advice before hand, i was given a fixed penalty notice, can they give me anymore points or revoke my licence, just because i took it to coart and now happend to be out of my restriction?

many thanks, steve.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

They can't give you a fixed penalty ticket, process that and then take you to court for the same offence.

Possible that they could take you to court for a seperate offence, but unlikely.

Suspect most likely they have made a mistake and are trying to prosecute you a 2nd time.

All the best

Keith
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[steveh]

[Kickstart]

Hi

In which case yes they can give you a heavier penalty than a fixed penalty. As well as costs.

If the points for the offence they do you for are from the date of the offence then possible that it might invoke the 6 point limit.

All the best

Keith
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[colin1]

I was a bit quick to assume that because I have had my license sent back from the court with the points written on, I was ok.

Ive just had a letter from the dvla, and its been revoked.

I have to return it, and apply for a provisional, and then do theory and practical again.

Fuck.

I may try and revive the rs125, so I have something while I'm getting my license back.
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[Kal]

Balls. That sucks dude.
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[Al]

Sorry to hear that Colin


Ps-I've got an old copy of the theory test CD-ROM knocking around you can have if you've got rid of your last copy.
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