Tazers are non lethal ya say?

[Itchy]

Another taser related death,

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7198742.stm

It seems that the original hypothesis of tasers are non lethal is quickly becoming untrue, as with the mosquito anti teenager sonic device.

And NO I'm not saying threatening cops with knives is OK but I'm disputing the non lethal claim constantly made by the manufacturers , which no doubt MPs have shares and or shady backroom deals with.
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[Skudd]

[McGee]

All police in the UK should be given the option to be armed.

If they don't want a firearm give 'em a tazer if they say yes give them a pistol.

Nuff said.
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[Keir]

[Itchy]

No I just object to the constant reference to non lethal , if they put a caveat ie non lethal in 9/10 cases fine , but calling it non lethal means that cops just thing don't worry won't do a thing to them might as well use it several times.
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[powelly]

My first thought when I heard this was they taser him, he collapsed and he fell on the knife.

Clearly this scenario would have nothing to do with the taser in the same way that the guy that was covered in petrol and burst in to flames had nothing to do with the fact that he'd just been tasered too.
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[pwntifex]

The reason the tazer is a dangerous weapon is because it is marketed as being in the same bracket as CS gas and the baton—that is, as non-lethal dehabilitant that causes little to no damage over the long term.
However, it is becoming obvious that this is not the case. I would rather our officers were armed with pistols (the gravity of which is understood by all, and that are unlikely to be employed except as a last resort) than this new technology, which nobody really understands, but that police forces seem eager to employ straight off the bat.
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[Mister James]

I always thought it came under the category of 'less lethal', like various 'soft' munitions such as rubber bullets/baton rounds?

I have to say, your use of this particular story to highlight your (valid) concerns is as suspect as any mis-use of the description 'non-lethal' - as it's clear that the Tazer had no direct link to the guy's death.
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[pwntifex]

[Mister James]

[Hetzer]

It's very clear that the Tazer is a potentially lethal weapon, regardless of what the lying scum say to the contrary. Anybody with a pace-maker, or a weak heart/heart with electrical issues, is at risk of death from being given 50k volts.

But that won't stop their indiscriminate use. Unfortunately the average copper will view it as a new toy and be gagging to use it so long as he can dress it up with a suitable form of words and cover his ass. Guy in the street gives it a bit of verbal attitude, he'll be zapped and the report will say "threatning behaviour & resisting arrest". You know how it goes, same old same old.
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[SoND]

Death puts PSNI use of taser guns in doubt.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mheyojcwcwey/rss2/

[colin1]

their mistake was not restraining him immediately after tazering him.

Being tazered is going to be a traumatic experience, so if someone is mentally unstable, its not really going to make them calm down. If anything its gonna make them freak out.

So once you have tazered them, you can get control of them, and then keep them under control, rather than let them run off and do something else thats silly.

I agree with Hetzer that in the future its quite possible that people will be tazered for giving a bit of attitude.

In most ways this is bad, but I think its actually better than being beaten up over a bit of attitude, as it still is more controlled than hitting someone with a baton. The physical effects of being tazered wont usually last as long as the physical effect of being given a thorough kicking in the back of a meat wagon.

They call them meat wagons because of the blood they have to hose out at the end of the night.

Its standard (unofficial) policy, to grab a trouble maker, take him into the van and teach him a lesson.
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[SoND]

[colin1]

I think one thing with normal injuries, is that you can show them as evidence that you have suffered.

Suffer being tazered, and you have very little to show.

As you say, a cop is gonna think less about using his tazer, than his baton.

They used to make all new uk coppers be on the recieving end of peper spray or cs spray or whatever they use, so they know its effect and dont use it without due cause.

They arent allowed to do that now due to health and safety laws, which will be the same for tazers, but i think they should have to experience it themselves before they go around zapping people.
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[Itchy]

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[Hetzer]