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AngelGrinder
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 19 Jan 2008    Post subject: SatNav for a Bike - and Also For a Car Reply with quote
So, as the title suggests, I've just got a new position at work, and life will be much easier with a Satnav in my van.

Thing is, I was going to get one for the bike soon also, and don't really want to buy 2 Satnavs.

So, do any bike satnavs come with mounts you can swap over to stick on a van windscreen?

Cheers for the help!

(P.s will i be able to fit it to my bike if it has Clip-ons?)
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 19 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've been looking into this as well AngelGrinder as I wouldn't mind replacing my old satnav that I can only use in my car. The Garmin Zumo 550 can be used on your bike and in your van. It comes with a mount which can be fitted into your van and has an integral speaker so you can hear the directions without an earpiece. It's still very expensive though. I'm waiting for the price to, hopefully, come down a bit.

The TomTom Rider can also be used in your van but on the Tom Tom Rider 1 you needed to wear an earpiece if you want to hear the directions as it doesn't have an integral external speaker. I don't know if this is the case still with the TomTom Rider 2.

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PostPosted: 18:02 - 19 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
If you want to do other out-doors style stuff (off roading, etc), then the GPS Map 60 range is worth a look.
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 19 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
www.pocketgpsworld.com



Try that it might help


I dont use a sat nav in my truck just a good map
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 19 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have a Garmin Quest unit with a Ram mount for my bike.
https://www.activegps.co.uk/garmin-quest.htm

Its a good little GPS, not the most advanced on the market but its very small and waterproof for on the bike, its also got a built in battery with 20hours life.

It comes with maps for most of Europe but only has about enough memory to hold a couple of countries at a time. I used it when I was driving around in Italy earlier this month and it was great Very Happy then just popped it out of the car and used it to guide me as I walked around the streets of Rome Thumbs Up

I'm not sure if they still sell the Quest but I got it from GPS Warehouse- https://www.gpsw.co.uk/cats/cl3_35.html
Which provided really good service Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
TomTom Rider has an in-car dock with speaker built in (the Rider itself only has sound via bluetooth) But you have to buy the car dock separately... still cheaper than a second satnav.

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in car kit for tomtom rider2 £54,99 from Hein Gericke ...I know this because I just bought one Smile and now I'm off to pick it up Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Why do you need a satnav Question

As they can send you down the wrong roads and most are out of date
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lady P wrote:
Why do you need a satnav Question

As they can send you down the wrong roads and most are out of date


I bought a TomTom early this year as I had to go to a funeral in London, I live 240 miles a way.

I did manage to find the church without the sat nav.

But in the London traffic, I lost the funeral procession on the way to the cemetary.

Luckily i'd asked the priest prior to the service for the address of the cemetry.

The Sat Nav got me there.

I wouldn't have made it , without the Sat Nav.
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
kawakid wrote:
Lady P wrote:
Why do you need a satnav Question

As they can send you down the wrong roads and most are out of date


I bought a TomTom early this year as I had to go to a funeral in London, I live 240 miles a way.

I did manage to find the church without the sat nav.

But in the London traffic, I lost the funeral procession on the way to the cemetary.

Luckily i'd asked the priest prior to the service for the address of the cemetry.

The Sat Nav got me there.

I wouldn't have made it , without the Sat Nav.


Sorry you had to go to a funeral

I know what you mean about the London traffic as i do It

As i drive a truck I dont have a sat nav and manage to find my tips and collections
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sickpup
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Maps are useless for most of my deliveries outside London. Postcodes are what get you there nearly everytime.

Maps are often less accurate than GPS. GPS is updated yearly whereas maps can take 5+ years to update.
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
sickpup wrote:
Maps are useless for most of my deliveries outside London. Postcodes are what get you there nearly everytime.

Maps are often less accurate than GPS. GPS is updated yearly whereas maps can take 5+ years to update.



Most of my deliveries I do get an address for

Depends what you drive I have a Volvo FH 12 420 plated at 44t with a fridge on the back so have to consider bridge height which a sat nav wont do or weight limits so I would still need a map
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lady P wrote:
Why do you need a satnav Question

As they can send you down the wrong roads and most are out of date


I've found satnav really useful for the last couple of miles of your journey. It's easy to find your way to e.g. Northampton, Coventry etc but when you're trying to find a specific street/address in a city or town you don't know I find it useful and quicker than stopping at a couple of petrol stations to ask directions. Laughing Each to their own eh? Thumbs Up
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panrider_uk
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
They are still geared towards cars (and for me they certainly take the stress out of driving somewhere new) but they are gradually improving for other users.

If you look on the pocketgpsworld forums you'll find a lot of HGV drivers that do use them.

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PostPosted: 20:35 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mine has settings for-
Car/Motorcycle
Pedestrian
Bicycle
Truck
Bus
Emergency
Taxi
Delivery

I've only used the first 3 of the settings and they've all been fine. I'm not sure how the Truck routes would work, as the GPS wouldn't know what weight/height truck your were driving.
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panrider_uk
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think the truck/rv options work by not sending you down narrow roads.

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sickpup
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lady P wrote:


Most of my deliveries I do get an address for



But it's when you are given an address like a farm where there is often no road name or door number that GPS really comes into it's own.

Lady P wrote:


Depends what you drive I have a Volvo FH 12 420 plated at 44t with a fridge on the back so have to consider bridge height which a sat nav wont do or weight limits so I would still need a map



As has already been said in this thread many GPS systems have settings for what type of vehicle you drive. You can also set avoidance zones such as low bridges.

I ride Motorbikes for work so you would probably think nothing effects me well the floods on the A2 at Canterbury on Tuesday certainly did which wouldn't have affected you. Here's some pics I took last year of one road I went down that had a river running across it, these would effect me but probably not you.

HGV's regularly use that road as well. There's a farm there that also has a riding school and a huge horse lorry thing.

https://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=55121

https://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=55120

https://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=55119

https://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=55118

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PostPosted: 21:18 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
does any1 no how much a tom tom rider costs in shops?
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lady P wrote:
www.pocketgpsworld.com



Try that it might help


I dont use a sat nav in my truck just a good map


That site Thumbs Up Question I know some of the mods on there


No sat nav is designed for trucks I do know people who use them
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Lady P
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lady P wrote:
www.pocketgpsworld.com



Try that it might help


I dont use a sat nav in my truck just a good map


That site Thumbs Up Question I know some of the mods on there


No sat nav is designed for trucks I do know people who use them
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Lady P
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
panrider_uk wrote:
I think the truck/rv options work by not sending you down narrow roads.

Mark



No wrong there as they dont know the difference between a car and a truck
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Lady P
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
By the way i have used a sat nav and agree they can be a useful aid I am not totally against them


But I still trust my map or both like i said for bridge heights weight limits as a sat nav cannot tell me that info

I know some drivers who deliver to farms ect and they dont use a sat nav sorry dont know what all the fuss is about them
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lady P wrote:


I know some drivers who deliver to farms ect and they dont use a sat nav sorry dont know what all the fuss is about them



The fuss is they are simple to use, I don't have to carry several hundred pounds in maps and they help me earn more than I would without.

If you have no idea where you are a map is of no use.

I also have a GPS tracker with my work gear so if I have an accident my position can be pin pointed. At the end of the day if you don't want to use one don't but all my work is ad-hoc not preplanned and every day I end up in a different part of the country so they are invaluable.
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sickpup wrote:
Lady P wrote:


I know some drivers who deliver to farms ect and they dont use a sat nav sorry dont know what all the fuss is about them



The fuss is they are simple to use, I don't have to carry several hundred pounds in maps and they help me earn more than I would without.

If you have no idea where you are a map is of no use.

I also have a GPS tracker with my work gear so if I have an accident my position can be pin pointed. At the end of the day if you don't want to use one don't but all my work is ad-hoc not preplanned and every day I end up in a different part of the country so they are invaluable.




I dont always know where I am going I can end up in a different part of the country

I can understand why you dont want to carry loads of maps but i do nights out as well so can normally check my route the night before we also have phones build in

Yes they can be simple to use like i said have used 1 in the past but still have to rely on maps
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PostPosted: 23:38 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
ljwalker wrote:
does any1 no how much a tom tom rider costs in shops?


I paid around £400 for the TomTom Rider2 with all European maps from Hein Gericke not long after it was released.
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
ljwalker wrote:
does any1 no how much a tom tom rider costs in shops?


I've just bought one online from Halfords for £259 (GB+Ireland)

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