Are we being set up?

[ColdInsomnia]

Having read the latest Have Your Say on the BBC website, and also having considered the thoughts of many people I've spoken to regarding the problem over the last few years, I have to say.

I feel like we are being set up.

Think about it.

Our leaders harp on about terrorism, whilst few people feel safe to walk the streets today because of the local wild and out of control kids.

People are sick of it and are screaming out for tighter policing.

I'm sick of the left wing bullshit myself because it's created nothing but trouble with this generation, but in my opinion we must tread carefully, because we could easily walk into a far right-wing society as an answer to our woes.

Call me paranoid, but I feel like the people in power actually want us to start crying out for more right-wing policies. They know that they'd never get them installed without us on their sides. So how to get us on their sides? Make us beg for it.

We've been begging for Labour to do something about these rotten kids for a long time now, and every time the prayers get answered with more left-wing nonsense that protect the criminal more than the victim.

All it would take is one catastrophic event to sway people in favour of a police state... and once we're there, it's going to be a long road back.
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[Didge]

[cestrian]

[cestrian]

The latest Common Purpose video contains the proof you seek.

See sig below.

[bazza]

[cestrian]

"Agreed. The country desperately needs a government made up of a few lefties, a few righties and lots of centrists" - Myself, earlier in the thread.

bazza, did you not read my earlier post? It seems you are prepared to display your illiteracy for all to see (and laugh at) just to take a cheap dig at me.

Someone explain this to him.

[UrbanRacer]

[JonB]

I'm not quite sure what Cestrian is on the forum to achieve.

It's easy enough finding damning evidence about the current government, but I notice no-one ever looks as to what positives have come out of the past 11 years.

I ask you one question Cestrian and rather than erring on the side of caution, just give a straight answer.

Are you, or are you not a member of the British National Party?
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[Hetzer]

Tin. Foil. Hats.

Strange how the BNP come in for all this vilification, while a far worse bunch of criminal thugs are destroying our lives with little or no condemnation from the common hoi-poloi.

They're all scum, every last single one of them. A seperate breed of vermin who seek nobody's advantage but their own. Liars, cheats, thieves and murderers, dressed up in a thin guise of respectability, pulling the wool over everyones eyes and turning our world, civilisation and society into a toilet.

Cattle led by heyenas.
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[cestrian]

Nah, the guy is not a member of either of those parties. You obviously didn't watch the whole video.
Your disdain for the BNP and UKIP suggests you're a liberal. If so, are you proud of that?

[JonB]

[cestrian]

[JonB]

Of course they are not, nor are any other parties in the UK.

On the flipside an anarchic society would be worse.

Unfortunately in life, there is always someone higher who holds the cards and they are usually kept close to his chest.

If everybody uprises against this current government what good will come?
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[cestrian]

[bazza]

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[Itchy]

No we don't need lefties or righties or centrists , what we need is minority governments where governments 'win' with a majority of +1 to +10 this effectively cripples them from making any large decisions and thus keeps the status quo for 4-5 years which is the best we can hope for since invariably the road to hell is paved with good intentions , laws are rushed in and badly thought out.

Imagine it if Blair won with +10 in 97 +5 in 01 +5 in 05,

an awful lot of laws would not be passed.
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[cestrian]

[craigie b]

Oh yes, how silly of me to forget the positives of massive housing increases. Its been such a benefit to the new generation of underpaid masses

[cestrian]

Don't forget the wonderful opportunity for our children to be educated about homosexuality from a very young age. Surely that's a 'positive'.

Waiting for someone to agree that teaching kids about homosexuality is positive.

[Kal]

[Kickstart]

Hi

I agree with Itchy. Next best thing to hanging parliament is a hung parliament.

Basically there is little new legislation that is really required, and that should be supported by more than one party.

Basically bring in some form of proportional representation (I would favour grouping current constituencies into groups of 10 or so and then having PR in that group to elect 10 representatives, keeping a decent amount of local representation), which would stop the current situation where one minority party wins with barely any more votes than another minority party, but due to odd boundaries manage to get a large majority of seats.

Failing that just ban all political parties so everyone has to stand as an independent.

All the best

Keith
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