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 Posted: 13:04 - 24 Jan 2008 Post subject: [HELP!] 2k CLEAR-LACQUER.... ZRX61 maybe ? |
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2k Lacquer Does it need heat lamps to dry ?
What sort of finish does it give ? Spray masks ? Ive got a carbon gas filter (Used against vapour from organic substances whose boiling point exceeds +65°C) and particle filter (High performance particle filter class P3. Used against all types of wet and dry particles, such as dust, smoke, aerosols, spray, asbestos, bacteria, viruses and mould) on my mask atm, it's the type that you can add more to, will adding another carbon filter make it safe to use ?
Cheers.
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You have a compressor and spraygun im guessing
since thats the mix for a gun obviously...
Dosnt need heat lamps to dry
but benefits hugely from a heated workshop like s spraybooth and stick it on bake doubt you have that though, stay away from fan heaters they will just blow dust around your workspace into your job.
Gives a nice gloss shine, its a normal laquer just the 2k means its compatible with 2k paint systems. so ye as good as any other.
Masks, your putting yourself at huge risk now.
using one of those masks for paints/laquers with isocyanates in is extremely bad for you, and will give you cancer.
Only way to avoid this, and this is what we do, is if your going to do regular spraying and have a compressor get a air fed visor, expensive but what do you value more, your life or money?
https://www.devilbisseu.com/cat.aspx?id=84 - kind of design we use.
As its not particulates that will harm you its almost the vapour we can say, and that mask you use dosnt protect your eyes either, as isocyanates attack the eyes and go through your tear ducts and also can go straight through skin into your blood stream.
So you have to be extremely careful
What kind of setup you running, workshop/gun/compressor wise atm? ____________________ Past: '05 Peugeot XPS '99 Aprillia RS125 '94 FZR600R
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I think 7.5cfm is just enough, depending on what gun your using and how much your spraying of course,
make sure your using the right needle/aircap setup/fan setup too
Ye HVLP gravity so much easier agreed.
Ok you have enough space easily, We spray at around 25 degrees as paint works well at that kind of temperature, Well any heater that dosnt use a fan, unless your prepared to go round with a brush and sweep the whole garage, and buy some tacky wall coating so the dust that is still around sticks, Otherwise sectioning off with tarp is a good idea, if possible put one above as well as we get alot of dust falling down ontop.
https://www.godfreys-online.co.uk/pageview.php?page=show_product&ecommerce_stockcode=ig1250
halogen heaters which use the heat off the light to warm the whole room, anything that dosnt risk blowing dust or shit into your job unless you want to pound it for ages =]
Hope that helps
Looking forward to your reply/pictures of your work
PS. Why do people not like you on this forum, just looked in the rant section for the first time, and its fucking not on, mean cunts lol
and what are you going to do about the mask issue, as if you ignore it your putting yourself at huge risk =/ ____________________ Past: '05 Peugeot XPS '99 Aprillia RS125 '94 FZR600R
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Lines , free
gun £15
Compressor £70
air reg , free
couplings , free |
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| jamie stokes wrote: | | Toby R wrote: | My brother's a pro and been doing this for 20+ years, I can ask him at some point if you want?
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Hi Toby, if you could that would be great, thanks.
I always thought 2k or "2 pack" was loosely based on cyanide, hence why I asked about masks, if he can confirm/rule out this that would be really helpful.
Google doesn't seem much help, unless I'm spelling it wrong.
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Yeah, I think it is,
(Wait for someone experienced to confirm this bit)
Basically you need a mask which has a higher pressure inside (Where your face is) than the working environment, this means gas naturally will not want to come into your face mask (Air in your mask would rather escape as naturally the pressure is trying to equalise both sides)
As said before, I /think/ 2k contains some derivative of cyanide that can be absorbed through your ear drums, eyes, mouth, nose, etc.
I'll ask my bro, the reply may take a while tho
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Old Thread Alert!
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