Dark Visors (what is the Law?)

Karbon Kid · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Karma :

Can anyone please tell me what the law is on dark or tinted visors. I know that to wear one at dusk or night time is suicidal,but on bright or well lit sunny days what is the law and what can the law do to you for wearing one. I personally like my dark visor on such days ,It cuts down glare which on its own has to be a saftey factor and is less strain on the eyes and a lot more comfy than sun glasses.Besides that they look awsome on most hemets.I see 9 out of 10 riders using them but can't help but worry every time I go out in mine. I enjoy mine because it also hides my ugly mug Laughing

Can anyone please help on this matter?
Many Thanks
Karbon Kid
____________________
A mate said life begins at 40 ( LYING GIT) so I got to 50 and bought a bike again!!!

Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

Illegal whatever the time of day. A legal tint is barely noticeable.

Having said that there is meant to have been some guidelines to the police recently to turn a blind eye to dark visors being used sensibly.

All the best

Keith
____________________
Traxpics, track day and racing photographs - Bimota Forum - Bike performance / thrust graphs for choosing gearing

Karbon Kid · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Karma :

Thanks Kickstart
I heard something similar to that last year so there must be some truth in it,I suppose it's all down to which cop pulls you and if you were doing any thing crazy when he/she pulls you.
Take Care
StevieH
____________________
A mate said life begins at 40 ( LYING GIT) so I got to 50 and bought a bike again!!!

Bofh5 · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Karma :

Hi
Best bet is to always carry a clear one with you.
I bought my tinted visor and got a free visor bag which fits nicely on my backpack.
This time of year with the sun so low in the morning a clear visor is a danger in itself especially coming round a corner smack into the rising sun.
____________________
(L)users...Disk space is to good for them.

Bikes: Honda 50 / CB125-TDC / 93 CBR600 F2 (Stolen & Trashed) / 2001 SP-1 (Sold) / 95 CBR600 F3

Karbon Kid · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Karma :

Hi Bofh5
I did think of getting a visor bag and try to fasten it to the bike so that I never forget it.I now its a bit big but there's got to be somewhere to store it. But I will get one anyway and just wear it around my (slightly over size waist ) Embarassed

if I have to,at least it will give me peace of mind.
Thanks for that Thumbs Up

StevieH
____________________
A mate said life begins at 40 ( LYING GIT) so I got to 50 and bought a bike again!!!

Walloper · Super Spammer Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Karma :

I could easily be wrong...
But I think it is not a point-able offence.
Crash helmet regulation stuff.

But I use tint and have never had any probs.
Shoei do one that is legal and which works OK.
React-to-light inserts fade after about a year.
Oakleys get sat on crushed in pocket during fight with transit mini-buses Embarassed

Be sensible.
____________________
W-ireless A-rtificial L-ifeform L-imited to O-bservation P-eacekeeping and E-fficient R-epair

Walloper · Super Spammer Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Karma :

Karbon Kid · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Karma :

It does sound bad (bit big but) I realise now I am older, I should have gone to school more often. Laughing

I can hardly say it so, I don't know how the hell I spelt it. Laughing

Take Care
Thanks for the info:before Thumbs Up

StevieH
____________________
A mate said life begins at 40 ( LYING GIT) so I got to 50 and bought a bike again!!!

Karbon Kid · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Karma :

Hi Kickstart

I love that avatar with the eyes.
Did you make it yourself?
Nice One
____________________
A mate said life begins at 40 ( LYING GIT) so I got to 50 and bought a bike again!!!

mr jamez · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Karma :

I've got a dark visor but I only use it now and again when really needed. Like on bright mornings when I go to college, the sun on the kings road basicaly blinds you. So its either break the law* or ride through traffic blind, easy decision! Just use common sense really, I'd imagine its something a copper would only do you for if he was feeling a bit pompous.

*I tried sunglasses in my lid, didn't work for me.
____________________
NSR 125F > BROS 400 > NC30 > BROS 400 > Trumpet S4 > '97 VFR 750

Bofh5 · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Karma :

No what you mean.
Especially as you come round Forbury Road by the Prudential Building.
I'd hope that any copper would see the sense and realise its safer to have a tinted visor and see where your going than have a clear and be riding blind
____________________
(L)users...Disk space is to good for them.

Bikes: Honda 50 / CB125-TDC / 93 CBR600 F2 (Stolen & Trashed) / 2001 SP-1 (Sold) / 95 CBR600 F3

Syx · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Karma :

I didn't really like the sunglasses idea (if I have an off, I'd rather not get them shoved into my eyes...) so I used a mirrored one on sunny days. I've passed coppers before with no problems, had one directing traffic after an accident even give me a thumbs up as I filtered along with it on. It all depends on the person you meet, and whether or not you're riding like a dick!

Karbon Kid · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Karma :

I agree it all depends on what sort of cop it is and what sort of mood they are in.
I spoke to a bike cop one day when I was walking through our local town center and he, even admitted that coppers on bikes usually saw things from a bikers point of view,because most of them are bikers themselves.I don't know how true that is?
He said the only advice he could give me was (dont draw attention to yourself if you can help it)but even he could'nt answer me on dark visors.
I suppose listening to other bikers experiences is the best way
StevieH Thumbs Up

____________________
A mate said life begins at 40 ( LYING GIT) so I got to 50 and bought a bike again!!!

Skudd · Super Spammer Joined: 01 Oct 2006 Karma :

I've seen coppers wear them. The special escort bods in Londinium have sometimes been seen on TV wearing really tinted visors.
I wear one, but like others have said, carry a spare clear one.
If you do get a knobby copper it is a £30 fine and he can confiscate the visor ( leaving you with no eye protection at all ) but I have heard that you can sign his note book to admit you have a tinted visor so he doesn't have to take it as evidence.
____________________
Famous last words of Humpty Dumpty. " Stop pushing me "
Petty Anarchists look at "1984".............. The Visionary looks at "Animal Farm".

Skudd · Super Spammer Joined: 01 Oct 2006 Karma :

oisky · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 11 Feb 2007 Karma :

wow. This thread has really made me think. I've worn my Caberg 104 V2 double visor tech Lid for 2.5 years (not all the time obviously! Just when I'm on the bike) and it has one of those built in sun visors that you can flip down when required. I've always assumed that since it is legally on sale and conforms to British safety standards that it must be legal. Why do bike shops sell them if they are illegal?

Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

Think the Caburg is legal, because the tinted bit is not legally the protective visor, and as such is not subject to the approval rules.

All the best

Keith
____________________
Traxpics, track day and racing photographs - Bimota Forum - Bike performance / thrust graphs for choosing gearing

Walloper · Super Spammer Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Karma :

RatBlack · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Karma :

If you got stopped for a dark or tinted visor you would be very unlucky. They are illegal in the same way as tinted dark windows on a car is illegal but as I say never known a ticket to be issued for one.
____________________
Robocop "Dead or alive, you're coming with me."

Syx · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Karma :

Karbon Kid · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Karma :

Thank's for the info so far.
I am sure that the Caberg hemets are legal and also some other makes like the Airoh with the pull down visor because you can put up the dark one but still be left with the clear one.
I think it maybe a case of getting pulled for something else and then he/she notices the visor and decides to nick you or warn you about that while they are at it.( I'm only guessing that)
I just wish we knew the actual facts .I recently bought an open face helmet made by Airoh with a half face fighter pilot type visor for the real hot days and that has a slightly tinted visor (noticable) that was fitted when I bought the helmet and that has a (standard mark) on it and it also has (for daytime use only) printed on it , I'm not so worried about that one,it's my dark one on my full face that I am concerned about.
Many Thanks
Karbon Kid
____________________
A mate said life begins at 40 ( LYING GIT) so I got to 50 and bought a bike again!!!

Karbon Kid · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Karma :

Hi Skudd
After reading your post I noticed your persoal message at the bottom of the page and had a good laugh Laughing

I know this has nothing to do with this thread so I will apologise now.
But it made me think of an old ryme we used to say:

Humpy Dumpty sat on the wall
Humpy Dumpty had a great fall
All the kings horses
And all the kings men
Said F*** it (He's only an egg)

Sorry!! Laughing

Karbon Kid
____________________
A mate said life begins at 40 ( LYING GIT) so I got to 50 and bought a bike again!!!

Walloper · Super Spammer Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Karma :

Karbon Kid · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Karma :

Nice One Walloper Laughing

Karbon Kid Thumbs Up

____________________
A mate said life begins at 40 ( LYING GIT) so I got to 50 and bought a bike again!!!

ruffriders · Scooby Slapper Joined: 30 Jan 2008 Karma :

ight do u have a ped if it does 50mph