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kenny
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: starting up playing bass any good ideas Reply with quote

toying with the idea of strating up playing the bass guitar just wanting to know if any body has any good ideas of a good starter bass i could get looking to spend about £250 on one, would like my self a nice ibanez if i can afford one.
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can say this without a shadow of a doubt. Get your paws around a Yamaha. They all seem to play pretty well off the shelf, and if you see one in a second hand shop, you'll save yourself the initial depreciation too. I bought an RBX270 for £85 about 18 months back, and it's fan-frikkin-tastic.

For £250 you'll get a five string active. If that's your bag.
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PostPosted: 12:45 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

agreed yamaha is where its at until you start talking ££££££££££££
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and by the way, do NOT look at anything with the words

VICTOR WOOTEN

in it.

Even this post is likely to make you give up, so only read it once then never again.
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PostPosted: 12:55 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yamaha make excellent Bass Guitars. I have an RBX 260 and it's a joy to play.

There's some excellent Tabs on https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/ and a few good product reviews as well to help you make your mind up.

Found this RBX 270, worth every penny IMHO.

Yamaha RBX270
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get yourself down to a guitar shop and handle a few. Depending on your hand size, you may not like the amount of stretch you need down the bottom of (say) a Fender Precision Bass with a 34" scale, and might prefer a short (30") one, or even go for a long (36") scale.

Personally, I play much faster on a short scale.
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to a second hand shop and throw a few things around (figuratively speaking of course). Chances are you'll fall in love with something a bit weird and buy it, I ended up buying an 80s Jackson Charvel when I did this. Souunded like absolute arse but I loved it. Then I changed what I now suspect were the original strings, and it transformed it completely, into frankly an absolute bitch of a bass.
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

At around £250 I'd definitely be looking at some form of Yamaha, best basses for little money.

What kind of music do you like/think you'll be playing? A 5 string could be a very good idea to start on (I started with a 5 string).
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

karlbbb wrote:
At around £250 I'd definitely be looking at some form of Yamaha, best basses for little money.

What kind of music do you like/think you'll be playing? A 5 string could be a very good idea to start on (I started with a 5 string).


i like a wide range from korn, rage against the machine, 311, soulfly, even bob marley
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

is a bass hard to play as im going to get lessons i read thats its best to start out on a four string then if you like you can work up to a five. i dont want to end up throwning myself in the deep end and not wanting to carry on if you know what i mean.
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

UnknownStuntman wrote:
Oh and by the way, do NOT look at anything with the words

VICTOR WOOTEN

in it.

Even this post is likely to make you give up, so only read it once then never again.



why i was looking at some vids on you tube and there seems to be a lot on victor wooten why is a some kind of loser bass player or sumrt?
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

found this on a web site

https://www.dawsons.co.uk/musicstore/s53940/0/Bass-Guitars/YAMAHA/Yamaha-RBX170-Red-Metallic-Bass/details.aspx?&IsSearch=y&pageindex=1&CatId=1166&comp=n



plus


https://www.dawsons.co.uk/musicstore/s42679/0/Bass-Guitars/YAMAHA/Yamaha-RBX374-Bass-Guitar-Black/details.aspx?&IsSearch=y&pageindex=2&CatId=1166&comp=n

would any of these make a good starter bass, whats the difference between them does one have better sound or some thing or better made
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

The RBX374 has "active" circuitry, meaning it boosts the signal coming from the pickups, but 'generally' has a cleaner tone. And by active, you will have to open up the guts (or sometimes it has its own little cover) to put the 9v battery in to power it. Replaced, for average use, once every 3 or 4 months.

I hardly play my bass and it still has the battery I put in over a year ago. When I used to play in a band, I replaced the battery every month, just so I knew it wouldn't conk out on stage (I never bothered carrying a spare, I was punk like that).


The RBX series would be ideal as a starter bass, and I'd definitely go for the RBX170 (as it's cheaper, will still play well, and are generally easy to sell on should you not like it or want to get a nicer bass in the future).


Lessons are definitely recommended, especially just starting out, they'll help a great deal, such as learning all the notes on the fretboard etc. I imagine any tutor you get will echo this, but it's a lot of help just sitting at home, putting your favourite records on, and just playing along, figuring it out as you go along. It's great to play along with your favourite songs.



P.S. I started on a 5 simply because I'd played guitar previously, and I've also played piano for 14 years, so I guess I was a little more "in the know" about what I was letting myself in for.
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re Vic Wooten (you ob. haven't taken the hint yet, but you'll get it after a while playing and watching him....!)

He's facking a-may-zin. I mean like, G-O-D on the low notes. My ears can't keep up with his playing, when he's on one. His fingers seem to just fall around the frets. He's got a funk so hard I can feel it in my pants. MY pants, not his.....

There. Sorry, I WOOTed out for a bit there.
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

UnknownStuntman wrote:
There. Sorry, I WOOTed out for a bit there.



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PostPosted: 23:37 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Terrible pun..... Laughing

Right, I have owned and thoroughly enjoyed playing a Yamaha RBX 260 Bass for the last ten years. It's had a pounding cos I like to play Rage Against The Machine, Black Sabbath Metallica and then mellow out with the mighty Pink Floyd. (Guy Pratt is a genius btw.)

My advice is get an RBX270. it is a very forgiving instrument to play, with a nice easy action and solid electronics. It is also quite light compared to some basses I have owned (much lighter than my old Rickenbacker I had when Lemmy was God)

It is a decent, affordable entry level bass and you will not want to part with it. When you are more proficient at playing, you may want to get a Bass with active electronics but they have never been of much interest to me. I prefer the clean, crisp sound that my Bass produces, but it really is down to personal preference.

Bass players of note to study.

The aforementioned Vic Wooten

Mr Guy Pratt (Pink Floyd post Roger Waters line up touring band)

Mr Billy Sheehan (Dave Lee Roth and Steve Vai's touring bands)

Mr John Myung (Dream Theatre and six string bass God)
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Myung .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhAGR95WG5c

the man is a genius.
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PostPosted: 00:03 - 01 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Such uber pwnage Cool



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PostPosted: 00:24 - 01 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenny wrote:
karlbbb wrote:
At around £250 I'd definitely be looking at some form of Yamaha, best basses for little money.

What kind of music do you like/think you'll be playing? A 5 string could be a very good idea to start on (I started with a 5 string).


i like a wide range from korn, rage against the machine, 311, soulfly, even bob marley


Did you just say 311? :O
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 01 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
Did you just say 311? :O


yea 311 are great what i like to listen when im not in the mood for to heavy or to light music, all mixed up is a great song aswell as amber.
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 01 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenny wrote:
Toby R wrote:
Did you just say 311? :O


yea 311 are great what i like to listen when im not in the mood for to heavy or to light music, all mixed up is a great song aswell as amber.


I'm a massive 311 fan, I'd give my left testicle to see them, apparently they supported Incubus a few years ago :O

I Told Myself, Damn, Homebrew, Long For The Flowers, are some of my favorites Smile
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 01 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

so if im starting out from scratch what will i need the bass , bag, spare strings, leads what sort, amp what sort i have a power amp that i used for a mic and i run my music through will that do. what else will i need as i dont wont to go to a shop and they say yea you need this, this and this plus this when i would only need half of the stuff they throw at me.
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 01 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get the Yamaha Bass and this

Marshall Bass Practice Amp

and one of these

Gig Bag

take you pick of these

Leads

strings

Strings

Straps

straps

and a stand to plonk it on.

stands

You don't ned to buy it all from the company I have used here, shop around for the best deals. I have merely used them as a reference.

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PostPosted: 14:47 - 01 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

well a stand and spare strings and a bag is not essential.. unles your gona have lessons and carry it about. then you need a bag... a stand... meh depends how much you like your bass... cost about 10-15 for an average stand... you'll soon want a guitar though... be ready..
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PostPosted: 15:54 - 01 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, olionel, it does indeed depend on how serious he wants to take it. Thumbs Up
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