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PostPosted: 20:22 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: Moving out Reply with quote

Sorry if this gets confusing!.....

My dad has just got engaged to his girlfriend and is planning on moving house/area at the end of the summer, ive got nothing against moving in with them, and in many ways it would make life easier but, it would mean sacrificing all the friends/social life etc ive made in this area and thats not something i want to give up.

unfortunately i also go to college two and a half days a week, i have a part time job but without quitting college and getting a full time job there is no way i can afford to move in on my own without serious finantual help.

I know for a fact my dad wont help me out on the money front but to be honest i think as its my choice to move out then its fair enough.

I have friends parents who have offered to take me in but even if i payed my way i feel it would be unfair on them.

So basically what options do i have?
Im 18 are there any government benefits i can claim to help me out?
Ill think any options through but i think im running dry...

My heads getting too crowded with thoughts to think this through properly so a bit of advice would be handy...

cheers

c_dug


edit: just some figures to help any thoughts along...

Im on about £300-£350PCM.

Travel to college/work comes in at exactly £200PCM although when my bikes on the road im hoping to cut this number in half.

A cheap 1 bedroom place around this area is looking at £600PCM at the very cheapest

My friends parents would want £20 a week but i still think this is unfair on them...

cheers again

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PostPosted: 20:25 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

any chance that you and your friends get together and maybe rent a place together, sharing the rent???
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jesus that was a quick reply!

Have thought about that but still realisticly i'd have to quit college to make it work, i will speak to a few friends though and see what they think...

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PostPosted: 20:44 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol..speedy - always here to help!

tbh....living in uni has given me a better insight to living with friends. The friends you think so highly of and love so dearly will eventually grate on you and their bad habits will do nothing but irritate the shit out of you. I suppose, you find out who your true friends are when you are in such close quarters.

In all honesty.....i would advise to live with your dad and gf. financially I don't think you are ready (being in college and all). If they are your friends...they'll always be, regardless where you end up living. It seems the only reason you don't want to move is because of your friends....if thats the most important thing to you, maybe, as you suggested, try living with your friends in their house for a while.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im sure its something id regret in later life but i think id rather drop college and move out.

In my dads eyes the new wife will come above my sister and my sister will come above me, ive put up with that for the last few years and when most people would go to a parent for advice and help ive had to, and luckily been able to, fall back on friends and their family.

I guess i'm kind of set on moving out if i can but had enough of my family... theres more to it then ive said but simply put, if i can id like to be able to move out.

Confused i think im becoming an EMO!!!! noooooo Laughing

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PostPosted: 21:08 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

defo EMO... Laughing

Ditto - i would class myself as the blacksheep of the family also, and have constantly been told that I am stone-cold with no emotions Confused Shocked

But as they say, blood is thicker than water. Friends will come and go but family will ALWAYS be there.
Think carefully, you are afterall still very young (feels such a long time ago for me). Friends are not the be all and end all in life....if you drop out of college - what are your plans? you going to get a job? How are you going to be financially able?
Don't just depend on the state to finance your social life - think ahead

but good luck, don't rush into it.
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

~ * YUN * ~ wrote:
Friends will come and go but family will ALWAYS be there.


Not always in a good way though.
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 31 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You 100% can't afford to move out, apart from that extremely generous £20 a week offer.

Take it and offer to do lots of chores etc around the house if you feel guilty.
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 01 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long have you got left in college? If you're in the last year it's probably worth staying with your dad for a few months then getting a job once you have some qualifications.
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 01 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

~ * YUN * ~ wrote:


But as they say, blood is thicker than water. Friends will come and go but family will ALWAYS be there. .


Oh no they won't, you'll learn some day.
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 01 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, that £20 a week sounds like a bargain. Tell them that you can move out whenever should you become too much of a burden, then you can move back in with your dad.

£300 a month is not enough to rent really at all. My terraced student house in Brum was £45 a week last year based on 5 sharing and thats considered cheap (not overall, but cheap each).
Also bear in mind bills and living costs. Its not just rent, its water, electricity and gas etc that come on top.

That offer really sounds good, especially if its only a temporary thing. If you do a few chores and are considerate and don't act as a burden on them, then you'll be fine I'd have thought Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 01 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got one or possibly two years left on my course depending on whether i stay on for the 3rd year or not...

I guess i should take up the 20 quid a week offer, i get on with his whole family really well, i think i spend more time with them than i do with my family!

I have untill the end of the summer to decide but id rather know what im doing soon, it means i can start to plan etc...

Idealy id love to move in with 4 or 5 friends into a rented place but i dont think it would happen, theres not enough of us who would move out from home, besides, unless we were to room share, a 4 or 5 bed house would be stupid money, the house im in at the moment is around the £1500 pcm mark and this is detached 5 bed converted bunglow with garage which would be perfect for us but especialy with bills on top it would be way too much to afford.

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PostPosted: 14:25 - 03 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did your friends family offer for you to move in? or did you ask them?

If they offered, then take them up on the offer as a trial to see how it goes. Offer slightly more than the £20 per week, if that would help your conscience. Make sure you know what the ground rules are prior to moving in, and agree to do a specific household task every week. And keep within the house rules; IE be considerate if coming in late at night, going out early in the mornings, dont push the boundaries in the way you might with your own parents.
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 03 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly how far away is you dad moving?
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 03 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

AC - they offered, i guess if i offer to pay 30 a week or something then i would feel a bit better about it, as well as helping around the house.

And im not sure how far, they havent decided yet but its likely to be the other side of london, probably about 2-3 hours from here.

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PostPosted: 21:37 - 03 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 or 3 hours to get to the other side of London?


You'l never be a courier.... Wink
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 03 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well you can of course visit your old friends in your old area, while making new ones where you do eventually end up.

2006 I came back to Manchester knowing nobody other than BWFC4eva86 who I had a few brief online chats with, after spending a few years away. Everybody I knew from college and other things had moved away and formed their own circles.

I know a few mates who I go out at weekends with a few times a month, arranged and went to quite a few BCF meets , culminating in what we have today, a small group of riders in an open group.

I also know a few solo riders who are more acquaintances than anybody else, they don't come to meets but we stop and have a chat or a coffee whenever our paths cross.

Bit like solo touringTBH if you have the right attitude and approach people its no problem , Johnny GSXR made me realise this wayy back in 2006.
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 03 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

My problem is that all the friends i have at the moment i know from secondary school and a few from my old college (last year) but my new college is a long way from home and from anywhere my dad would think of moving so the chance of making friends in a new area are severly reduced by that.

Apart from college and work all i do is chillax ( Cool Laughing ) with my friends in this area, as sad as it sounds i dont really see how id make friends in a new area.

Just though id say thanks for all the input so far Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 03:00 - 04 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
Apart from college and work all i do is chillax ( Cool Laughing ) with my friends in this area, as sad as it sounds i dont really see how id make friends in a new area.

Just though id say thanks for all the input so far Thumbs Up

c_dug


sad but true.

if your moving into a new area it will be hard to make new friends. From my experience changing college i have no friends at my college, sure i chat to people while im there, im sociable, but i wouldn't choose to meet up with any of them outside college, that might be because my college is full of wana be gangsters. All my friends are from my old school, and its a lot harder to meet up with them now.
Given the choice i would definitely have stuck with my mates, Of course if you chuck a bunch of strangers together you will make new friends, but trying to fit in to an already formed click is harder.

Saying this i could quite easily make good friends at my college, i just choose not to,
hmmm...

bunk with your mates for a trial month, if it doesnt work out you can allways go back to your dads.
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