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PostPosted: 12:15 - 05 Feb 2008    Post subject: Threads / War Games / The Day After Reply with quote

Just had a watch of this. Threads that is, but the other 2 docu/films are going along the same lines I am led to believe.

Obviously it was made 4 years before I was born, at a time of heightened worrying of a possible nuclear strike of Britain.

It makes very grim watching, it isn't a "horror", but it really does put some awkward thoughts in to your mind. I suspect many of the older members here probably watched it when they were younger, I expect watching it then was probably nightmare inducing.

My worst image from the film has got to be that ginger woman cradling her still born child, that stare sent chills down my spine, I expect I will probably have a few restless nights. Confused

There are no winners in a Nuclear war at the end of the day.
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 05 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember watching Threads at school.

War games is a little Eh? now with all that computer hacking malarkey from BBC or Amstrad and a 56k dial up. Laughing

Food for thought I suppose.

Will never happen as no one will ever have the nerve to 'press the button'.
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 05 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:

Will never happen as no one will ever have the nerve to 'press the button'.

You'd think, but in November 1983, the USSR came extremely close to pushing the button, they even had someone manning the safe for the missile launch codes.

NATO was conducted a test DEFCON 1 exercise called "Able Archer" (wiki it) where effectively all the major countries played a "war game" simulating the Soviet Union firing a missile and the US retaliating, but the Russians intercepted the radio signals and thought that the exercise was designed as a cover up for a proper attack.

Combine this with the 5 accidental missile detection by a USSR satellite 2 weeks earlier (high altitude clouds reflected the suns light into a USSR satellite, tricking it into thinking a missile had gone off) and the fact that Reagan had declared the USSR as an "evil empire" and the world was probably closer to Nuclear war than it was in the Cuban Missile crisis.

I don't think Nuclear war would be possible from a super power or normal democratic state, heck, I don't think N. Korea would launch a missile at a Western power, but I think there is still a threat from the Middle East, if they have managed to get hold of enriched Uranium or nuclear weapons outright.
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PostPosted: 02:06 - 06 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didnt they have one even closer then that with a 'detected' launch as well, where one guy refused to launch. Was in the Mail/Express about a month ago.
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PostPosted: 08:24 - 06 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah that was the 5 accidental missile detections by a USSR Satellite, but a very cool guy refused to launch a retaliate missile.
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PostPosted: 09:26 - 06 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
...but a very cool guy refused to launch a retaliate missile.


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PostPosted: 09:48 - 06 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

"By Dawn's Early Light" is also a top "brink of doom" film. Just make sure you watch the original (older) film with Powers Boothe, not the new one of the same name, which is a romance or somesuch twoddle Smile
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 06 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sum of all Fears is also not /that/ bad and actually has a nuke going off Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 06 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crimson Tide is another good one.
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 06 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to have threads on video, scared the heck out of me. I would have preferred to die there and then than survive like that. That sceen with the child giving birth also was disturbing. I havnt seen it in years now so its vague the details.
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 06 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Biggest problem I had with Threads was towards the end, the 10 year+ aftermath stuff.

I really didn't buy the breakdown of language thing, also I'd expect that even despite the devastation, the USSR would have been able to follow-up the attack with an invasion, particularly after 10 years had passed.

The attack and immediate aftermath, though, truly chilling stuff.
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 06 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:
Sum of all Fears is also not /that/ bad and actually has a nuke going off Thumbs Up


By Dawn's Early Light has two nukes you 'see', although you only get to see one mushroom cloud
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 06 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotch Bonnet wrote:
Biggest problem I had with Threads was towards the end, the 10 year+ aftermath stuff.

I really didn't buy the breakdown of language thing, also I'd expect that even despite the devastation, the USSR would have been able to follow-up the attack with an invasion, particularly after 10 years had passed.

The attack and immediate aftermath, though, truly chilling stuff.


The USSR invading would rely on them not being completely blitzed by other forces - even if they had forces remaining, resources and infrastructure to mount such an invasion would be nigh on impossible (yes they have gas/oil, but you can bet refineries etc would be wasted)
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 06 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Threads can be watched here : https://video.google.com/url?docid=-2023790698427111488&esrc=sr1&ev=v&len=6465&q=threads&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D-2023790698427111488&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D-2023790698427111488%26q%3Dthreads%26total%3D14426%26start%3D0%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D0&usg=AL29H23epoH8_UKBeVBbWMpYNcweQG_K-A

By Dawn's Early Light is here : https://video.google.com/url?docid=-7184168563320557608&esrc=sr1&ev=v&len=6010&q=%22by%2Bdawns%2Bearly%2Blight%22&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D-7184168563320557608&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D-7184168563320557608%26q%3D%2522by%2Bdawns%2Bearly%2Blight%2522%26total%3D5%26start%3D0%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D0&usg=AL29H23Wzw2Q7t9GfJJfJOjOWDQPFTbIrQ
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 06 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

And lets not forget "When The Wind Blows" Smile
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 06 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotch Bonnet wrote:
Biggest problem I had with Threads was towards the end, the 10 year+ aftermath stuff.

I really didn't buy the breakdown of language thing, also I'd expect that even despite the devastation, the USSR would have been able to follow-up the attack with an invasion, particularly after 10 years had passed.

The attack and immediate aftermath, though, truly chilling stuff.

There was an exchange of attacks, therefore USSR = dead as well.
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PostPosted: 17:03 - 06 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, but the USSR was so geographically huge, and the NATO arsenal so small in comparison, there would be an awful lot more of what was recognisably Soviet Russia that would have survived the exchange. Even after that much devastation, 10 years is a long time - and anyone capable of rustling up a recognisable modern (even by WWI/II standards) army in that period would have europe as their oyster.
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