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PostPosted: 19:43 - 05 Feb 2008    Post subject: Weed Reply with quote

So the pigs (you heard me) are complaining again and want cannabis upgraded to a class B drug again.

When will these dullards learn that prohibition does not work!!!

By prohibiting the legal sale of drugs, you're not getting rid of the problem, you're just creating a black market in which criminal gangs can get a hold, make a profit, buy weapons, claim 'turf', and then wage war against rival gangs.

Think about it - Britain has a pretty bad gang culture at the moment, right?

Where do these gangs get their income? Drugs.

Legalise drugs, take away their income, and their business, and the gangs have no money. No money to buy weapons, and much less reason to defend their 'turf' against rival gangs.

More revenue for the NHS, which might actually help pay towards the damage that drunken louts do every night in your local town! (No, there won't be hordes of stoned teenagers rampaging around destroying cars and stealing bikes).
Talking of rampaging teenagers, getting rid of the "war on drugs" will also free up a huge amount of police time, which could be put to far better use actually solving some of societies real problems.

The legalization allows it's strength to be regulated. Granted, there are some (arguable) negative side effects to weed, though everyone seems to have a different opinion on this since there is such a vast number of studies with different results. One thing I think we can all agree on though, with the above in mind, is that the legalization of weed have pro's that far, far outweighs the cons.

Sadly, to legalize drugs we'd need to live in something that resembles a free state. Day by day, it's slipping away from us. Instead, our government intends to condemn us to a world of perpetual surveillance, where societies problems are thrown into prison.
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 05 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 17:39 - 06 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was reading this not 5 minutes ago, and I completely agree. I don't see what right the government has to dictate what I can and can't put in my body, and I would prefer standardized stuff that I know the strength of to whatever the guy on a street corner happens to have.
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PostPosted: 23:43 - 06 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, legalise it for the reasons mentioned above. I've used it from time to time over the years, and it's a nice way to relax.
If one does not smoke, one can make 'hash brownies'.
Obviously, one does not use it and ride/drive, but my opinion is, that used moderately as alcohol should be, it is fine.
Alcohol is the cause of far more problems than legalised cannabis use would ever be.
Just think what it would be like if pubs sold weed instead of booze.
Everyone relaxed and friendly, kebab/burger shops doing a roaring trade to cure everyone's 'munchies', and the cops would have fuck-all to do on a Friday or Saturday night, when the pubs turned out. Wink
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PostPosted: 23:49 - 06 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 00:00 - 07 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not understand why they do not legalise it and tax it to hell, like alcohol or tobacco. I'm baffled.

Alcohol costs a lot, like using the police outside clubs and town areas at night times and cleaning up in hospitals after fights, it also is more harmful than cannabis although I'm not saying cannabis is positive but it should be your own choice if you want to use it.

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PostPosted: 00:39 - 07 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

theres nowt wrong with it... provided you smoke blunts theres no tar or nicotine, less risk of cancer than normal fags...

ive used on and off since about 14 and havnt noticed anything odd happening.

started off heavy-ish use at 14, like 3-4 a day, then calmed it down a bit as i left school...

ill take it when its offered now, but i wont go and buy it anymore.
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 08 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
The Authorities have been notified of your subversive and terrorist leanings, please remain calm and seated while our re-education officers trace your internet connection and 'love' will be applied by the state.


Loving the George Orwell reference... Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 08 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is only one reason the govt is against drugs and that's because they think it interferes with productivity. Which was why pub closing times were introduced, back in WW1 when drinking was interfering with the production of war materials.

The fact they lie through their rotten teeth about it just adds insult to injury.
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 08 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

It won't ever be legalised (and I'm definitely on your side) because the people who smoke it are the ones that want it legalised, and deep rooted political thought and weed just don't go together. The House of Commons would just be a rabble of people talking about Mini Cheddars.
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 08 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fact that a small group of people think they have the right to dictate to millions of others what they may or may not consume is truly stomach turning. I mean, when you really think about it...it's breathtaking. The sheer arrogance. Can you imagine going to your neighbour and telling him "You're not allowed to smoke or drink beer anymore, I've decided to criminalise it"? Just who the fvck do they think they are?! We elect these creatures to run the country, a technical exercise of management, not to dictate to us what we can and can't do as consenting adults. And we facking well let them!!!

What is it with humanity that hundreds of millions allow a couple of hundred to not only order them around on matters that are none of their fvcking business, but to persecute and torture us for non-compliance? Are we mad?!

You can be arrested and psychologically tortured (imprisoned) for growing one of nature's plants and eating it. What...the...FUCK?! Shocked

But somehow we've accomodated that as not only normal but right.

The human race deserves extinction, it truly does, if this is the best we can do.
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PostPosted: 23:59 - 08 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
The fact that a small group of people think they have the right to dictate to millions of others what they may or may not consume is truly stomach turning. I mean, when you really think about it...it's breathtaking. The sheer arrogance. Can you imagine going to your neighbour and telling him "You're not allowed to smoke or drink beer anymore, I've decided to criminalise it"? Just who the fvck do they think they are?! We elect these creatures to run the country, a technical exercise of management, not to dictate to us what we can and can't do as consenting adults. And we facking well let them!!!

What is it with humanity that hundreds of millions allow a couple of hundred to not only order them around on matters that are none of their fvcking business, but to persecute and torture us for non-compliance? Are we mad?!

You can be arrested and psychologically tortured (imprisoned) for growing one of nature's plants and eating it. What...the...FUCK?! Shocked

But somehow we've accomodated that as not only normal but right.

The human race deserves extinction, it truly does, if this is the best we can do.


Surely the ideal is that we trust these few hundred people to make decisions based on the good of the country? It's democracy. And they decided weed was bad enough to criminalise. Whilst I don't agree with that, or for that matter an awful lot of what they think, we make the decision to let them do this as a supposedly unbiased representation of the population.

Hetz, I'm sure you've got plenty to say to that one. But I haven't slept in 26 hours, so I'll leave it for now. Wink
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 09 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rookie wrote:
Hetzer wrote:
The fact that a small group of people think they have the right to dictate to millions of others what they may or may not consume is truly stomach turning. I mean, when you really think about it...it's breathtaking. The sheer arrogance. Can you imagine going to your neighbour and telling him "You're not allowed to smoke or drink beer anymore, I've decided to criminalise it"? Just who the fvck do they think they are?! We elect these creatures to run the country, a technical exercise of management, not to dictate to us what we can and can't do as consenting adults. And we facking well let them!!!

What is it with humanity that hundreds of millions allow a couple of hundred to not only order them around on matters that are none of their fvcking business, but to persecute and torture us for non-compliance? Are we mad?!

You can be arrested and psychologically tortured (imprisoned) for growing one of nature's plants and eating it. What...the...FUCK?! Shocked

But somehow we've accomodated that as not only normal but right.

The human race deserves extinction, it truly does, if this is the best we can do.


Surely the ideal is that we trust these few hundred people to make decisions based on the good of the country? It's democracy. And they decided weed was bad enough to criminalise. Whilst I don't agree with that, or for that matter an awful lot of what they think, we make the decision to let them do this as a supposedly unbiased representation of the population.

Hetz, I'm sure you've got plenty to say to that one. But I haven't slept in 26 hours, so I'll leave it for now. Wink


They lost any possible entitlement to trust centuries ago. The tragedy is that the human race still allows them power, and that's the biggest case for the extinction of our species. I mean, we're sitting here surrounded by thousands and thousands of nuclear weapons. Wow, some achievment! Ain't we the star act of the universe!

And democracy my arse. You call having a choice between scum in one party and vermin in another a democracy? Where the majority of the electorate's choices are left out in the cold? It's a shabby fascimile of a democracy, a democracy in name only. And they know it and we know it, but we still keep playing the tired old farce.

I hope I live long enough to see the whole rotten edfice brought crashing to the ground. And I hope I get to see the rats dragged out into the streets and beaten to death with the backs of shit-covered shovels. Now there's a happy thought. Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:12 - 09 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsprattuk wrote:
theres nowt wrong with it... provided you smoke blunts theres no tar or nicotine, less risk of cancer than normal fags


Blunts are rolled with a cigar (tobacco)

Glass pipe or bong is better. This is only with high quality, non tampered with smoke which is unavailable right now because the government has given the business over to criminals. There is grit weed and soapbar which has undetermined effects on the health of whoever smokes it because it is illegal and has not been tested.

The misuse of drugs act 1971 is responsible for ruining peoples lives and wasting millions of the tax payers money. Anyone who has ever been in jail or got in trouble with the police, lost their job, been forced to consume inferior, contaminated overpriced products, getting in trouble with dealers, being forced into crime to fund their habit and a lot more.

It's disgusting the way they harp on about how the laws are there to protect the people when they're too arrogant to admit they're wrong and banning it doesn't work, only makes the problem worse. They don't care about us, they want more power for themselves and they won't give it up easy.
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PostPosted: 09:59 - 09 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoND wrote:
mattsprattuk wrote:
theres nowt wrong with it... provided you smoke blunts theres no tar or nicotine, less risk of cancer than normal fags


Blunts are rolled with a cigar (tobacco)



a blunt is a joint with no tobacco

a joint has tobacco
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 09 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blunts are sometimes rolled with cigar sleeves.

The best blunt I saw was at some Cannabis Cup, where the guy pressed hash in a mangle of sorts, and used it as the skin for a blunt. Incredible.
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PostPosted: 13:03 - 09 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've cut down to almost no use at all now, i really dont have the time. But i think the worst thing for me now is with all this talk about it, is the fact that when im with good company having a chilled smoke, there's always that thought in the back of my mind that im the bad man. Neutral
When really im not, im partaking in a pleasure activity which doesn't affect anyone else apart from my friends giggling at stuff on the TV.
If you have a aquaintance/friend who deals a bit of green he can go buy himself a 360 for example or a round down the pub if he's clever with his cash.

And thats the funny thing, being tax free, readily avaliable, its not always a bad option for a young person. You could work 5 days a week dealing in between a day job and make a couple hundred a week.
Or you could work for some pleb in a bar earning £60 for the weekend pulling pints.

Its no wonder why small time dealers appear everywhere.
Here's an idea, stop making everything so fucking expensive and young people might be able to make it without turning to 'crime'.
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