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EdSpur
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 11 Feb 2008    Post subject: Soft panniers Reply with quote

Anyone have any experience/knowledge of these?

Don't want to spend more that I have to so have been looking at Oxford "First Time" and Buffalo "Getaway":
Buffalo Getway
Oxford First Time

Anyone know any important differences? Is one better than the other? Any alternatives?

Secondly, is getting cheap ones a false economy? Why are these ones half the price of others?
(For example)
Are they poor quality and will fall apart?

Any advice appreciated. Will only be used for occasional (every 6 weeks or so) weekends away up north so not wanting to spend budles of cash on a whole hard luggage system.
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 11 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

get second hand ones from ebay... Ive recently bought oxford humpback panniers for £42 off ebay. They are spottles and still smell new Very Happy
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 11 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 2 gas mask bags draped over the fuel tank, they're good for spanners and quickly shoving stuff in, but I prefer the hard panniers.
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 11 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think i have Buffalo Getaway's but they are definately Buffalo soft panniers that look very similar to yours, Have been touring all over UK/Europe with them on various bikes... Good panniers, just make sure you put all yours clothes inside bin bags then in the pannier and you will be laughing when it rains..
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 11 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oxford panniers are brilliant, I got a set and they have plenty of securing points so you can fit them no matter the load stably, also you can fit a fair amount in them which is handy. I've managed to fit a weeks worth of clothes into them (with trainers), so they can pack a fair bit.

I'd say get some oxford's off of ebay for cheap ^^.
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 11 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got oxford first time ones, good set.
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 11 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Buffalos look exactly the same as yours but are bigger,

the problem i have with them is they don't fit under the seat all the straps on the CBR unless you put then really far foward, and on the NTV only the velcro straps will fit under your seat.

Also the expansion system is a bit iffy , it works yes and can be over filled BUT you are forever mistaking the expansion zip with the main recessed zip.

The water proof covers are a tad antqiue though and flap in the wind sucking up MPG and if you don't put them on perfectly have pools of water in the bottom, treat them with thompson's water seal or fabrisil (thompsons stinks for weeks though).
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 11 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the Oxford Humpback panniers and tailpack/tankbag. On the whole not that bad, but the waterproof covers are a bit ghey (can't they just make the bag waterproof?)and one of the covers blew of one of the panniers -albeit at a fairly high cruising speed, i was 'sports-touring' after all. Wink
With typical biker innovation, i quickly fabricated a replacement out of a bin liner and some bungee cords, which worked well. Now i just put everything inside a bin liner and dispense with the rain covers.
Anyway, i think it's time to post a pic (in the traditional photowhoring manner of a gixer owner):
https://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj243/Andy_B_photos/TheGreatEscape226.jpg

And another one of two lovely Gixers nestling side by side. The owner of the other Gixer had a pair of Oxford panniers (a larger, non-humpback style) and he had real trouble getting them secure and still leave the pillion seat clear for his missus. One of the panniers drooped onto the exhaust and melted a whole load of molten plasticy gloop over the contents of the pannier - which just happened to be all his bird's stuff, and she went just a tiny bit mental as a consequence. We cured the droop with cunning application of more bungee cords, but it meant she had to sit on top of a load of bungee cord, which couldn't have been that comfortable. Anyway, onto the pic:
https://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj243/Andy_B_photos/TheGreatEscape145.jpg
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 11 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

truslack wrote:
I have 2 gas mask bags draped over the fuel tank, they're good for spanners and quickly shoving stuff in, but I prefer the hard panniers.


I think I still have a full set of '58 webbing in the loft and was wondering if I could utilize the various pouches as a form of panniers on the lil bike.
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 11 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got the Oxford Sports expandable ones, and they're great. A bit of a pain to put on the bike on your own, but doable. They're crash proof, too. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 11 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've used Oxford Sports, Buffalo and currently Oxford First Time.

All fine when used in conjunction with a handful of bungees.
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 11 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:
truslack wrote:
I have 2 gas mask bags draped over the fuel tank, they're good for spanners and quickly shoving stuff in, but I prefer the hard panniers.


I think I still have a full set of '58 webbing in the loft and was wondering if I could utilize the various pouches as a form of panniers on the lil bike.


The '58 Magazine pouches make good bottle / mobile holders if you put a bungee cord round your tank.

And Night Vision cases make good hard panniers Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 11 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your thoughts guys.

Conclusion seems to be the cheap ones should be fine for me but should be used in conjunction with bin bags and extra bungees! Very Happy

Nice one, question answered.

Cheers! Smile
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 12 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forget the bin bags, you will still get water inside them, and then they start to sag and touch your pipes...

Wrap everything inside in see-through freezer bags to keep them dry and save on space (as you can squeeze the air out).
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 12 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need some panniers too (sorry to hijack the thread). I need to carry my shopping home from Sainsbos, and I also frequently have to bring piles of paperwork home from work, and there's only so much you can fit in a backpack! The panniers posted above don't look very big...can you fit much in them? How much stuff could I realistically fit in two panniers, a backpack and a tank bag?
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 12 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take a look on here - tell you all the different sizes for quite alot of them.

https://www.motorbikesandparts.co.uk/index.php?cPath=13_137&osCsid=e1f27db21bd05cb3d7923bd8f2e36803
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 12 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smousie wrote:
I need some panniers too (sorry to hijack the thread). I need to carry my shopping home from Sainsbos, and I also frequently have to bring piles of paperwork home from work, and there's only so much you can fit in a backpack! The panniers posted above don't look very big...can you fit much in them? How much stuff could I realistically fit in two panniers, a backpack and a tank bag?


My buffalos say 42 litres per side, my tank bag (which is now wrecked) says 38 litres, my tail pack says 40 litres.

Thing is though they get this capacity by filling them with glass beads or sand , which fits into every crevace
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PostPosted: 17:54 - 12 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry to hijack here...but may save me a for sale advert,i have a pair of humpback panniers and tailpack im getting rid of...pm if interested.
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paivi wrote:
Forget the bin bags, you will still get water inside them, and then they start to sag and touch your pipes...

Wrap everything inside in see-through freezer bags to keep them dry and save on space (as you can squeeze the air out).


I personally couldent give a monkeys if the panniers get wet, as long as my clothes/items dont, for this a binbag works perfectly, the freezer bag thing sounds very OTT, also with binbags, if you are camping or in a hotel, when you get to your destination you can just lift out the complete contense of each pannier in a binbag, for security or ease of access...

Bin bags FTW!
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheDonUK wrote:
Paivi wrote:
Forget the bin bags, you will still get water inside them, and then they start to sag and touch your pipes...

Wrap everything inside in see-through freezer bags to keep them dry and save on space (as you can squeeze the air out).


I personally couldent give a monkeys if the panniers get wet, as long as my clothes/items dont, for this a binbag works perfectly, the freezer bag thing sounds very OTT, also with binbags, if you are camping or in a hotel, when you get to your destination you can just lift out the complete contense of each pannier in a binbag, for security or ease of access...

Bin bags FTW!


Yes, that's exactly what i do for rallies - just line each pannier with a bin bag.

I think maybe Paivi misunderstood and thought the bin bags were gonna go on the outside?
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mudskipper wrote:
I think maybe Paivi misunderstood and thought the bin bags were gonna go on the outside?

Yep. Instead of the flimsy raincovers some panniers come with, I thought somebody was using binbags.
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough the post by paivi makes a bit more sense now Wink, couldent have anyone knocking the trusty binbag now could i...

binbags (on the outside) + hot exhaust = melted on mess
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paivi wrote:
Yep. Instead of the flimsy raincovers some panniers come with, I thought somebody was using binbags.


That was me (in a previous post) that you 'misunderstood'. I did use one on the outside (lashed on tightly with bungees) when the crappy cover blew off during a storm. The rain was torrential, and rather than empty everything out and get it soaked whilst i put it into a bin liner, i just lashed the bin liner on over the top of the pannier. Worked fine as a temporary roadside bodge, and as it was the non-exhaust side, meltage wasn't an issue.
Now i don't bother with a cover and just use a bin liner inside the pannier. Bin liners FTW!
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 14 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

dave1rs wrote:
sorry to hijack here...but may save me a for sale advert,i have a pair of humpback panniers and tailpack im getting rid of...pm if interested.


Rats, if I'd seen that earlier you might have had a sale.
Bought Oxford 1st time set now.... Sad
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 14 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure if I can call this "soft" pannier, but I have this one.
https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/kawashima_/softpannier-2.jpg
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