Grooverider facing 4 years in Dubai prison

Harold_Shand · World Chat Champion Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Karma :

https://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3001314.ece

Heard about this on Radio 2 today. Jeeeesus, harsh. He is in with another Brit who is facing 4 years for 0.03g of weed, discovered in the tread of his trainer and another who is also facing 4 years for having 3 poppy seeds on his clothes ( from a sandwich at Heathrow ). Fuck that.

A woman was banged up for 8 weeks for having Codeine, which was for her back pain. She was only let out coz she was able to prove she needed it.
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Itchy · Super Spammer Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Karma :

When in Rome....

And hey alot of people complain when foriegners come to the UK and break UK laws, why is this any different?
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Harold_Shand · World Chat Champion Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Karma :

Yeh, your right. Hang the cunts. Fucking sandwich eating dip-shits. deserve everything they get.
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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

Hashish in Dubai? Unheard of!
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Kris · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Karma :

Selective enforcement at it's finest.

Wasn't too long ago that prince Harry was smoking a doobie..

https://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,42891,00.html

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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

They've got lots of tourists caught for similar things, most seem to get pardoned after a few months.

Four years for 2g... sohe got about a year for each spliff. That sucks. Laughing

Harsh as it is, it's his own fault. You go to another country and choose to take a gamble with something involve breaking the law, if you lose then you're in their country so under their laws and will be punished as such. But its still a ridiculous law they've got!!

It doesn't even have to be fractions of a gram that they find, if traces of an illegal substance are found in your blood or urine then you can still be locked up for maximum four years. Laughing

Legal to stone an adulterous woman to death but not to have a bit of weed. Rolling Eyes

stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

They clearly didn't give the police a large enough bung.
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Skudd · Super Spammer Joined: 01 Oct 2006 Karma :

If only we had just a bit of their law enforcement regarding illegal drugs and the misuse of legal drugs. Or just be able to correctly chastise our own kids.
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boredatwork · Nova Slayer Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Karma :

i think its draconian, but its their country, their rules i guess.

i wouldnt like to think that laws were applied differently to foreigners in the UK, as every one here should behave to the same level

in fairness, from what i heard the party had been warned about drugs, porn so on by the promoter, so they did know.

personally i wouldnt go there, i hear its lovely but the regime are a bit much for my liking, like most of the middle east...
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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Four years for 0.03grams!!! Shocked

Seems a very good place to never go. Laughing

nick606 · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 Nov 2006 Karma :

There was another one recently where they found a spec of weed on the sole of someones shoe and he was given 4 years. He could of picked that up anywhere just walking.

Complete piss take

Kwaks · I'm not a fast rider Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Karma :

Well I guess I won't see you guys arguing against sharia law being used in the UK then?

Dubai has its laws, just in these circumstances they are harsher than ours doesnt make them draconian, and it certainly aint taking the piss.

Entering a soverign country in possesion (no matter the amount) of illegal substances you should expect the mandatory sentance. No doubt he will recieve a royal pardon in due course, but Dubai wishes to remain drug free as well as theft free (almost).

Its actually a pretty lenient sentance compared to what thieving toerags get Laughing

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nick606 · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 Nov 2006 Karma :

So your saying getting 4 years for a spec of weed on the sole of your shoe is not taking the piss. There no way he knew it was there. Its not like he though "i know a wonderful way of how to smuggle drugs, i place a spec of weed on my shoe each time i go and i only need 7846235 trips for a spliff now."

It was a complete accident. He could of even picked it up when he got off the plane in Dubai walking to customs.

Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

https://cannazine.co.uk/cannabis-news/arab-emirates/briton-jailed-for-four-years-in-dubai.html

It's complete madness!!! Arrested for having three poppy seeds on his clothing from a roll he ate at Heathrow. That's taking the piss! 4yrs in jail for 0.03g of weed is taking the piss. 4yrs in jail for 2g of weed is taking the piss. Claiming that it's not taking the piss, is well, taking the piss. Razz

Kwaks · I'm not a fast rider Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Karma :

Its the law of the country, simple. You don't break it you have no problems.

Dubai is one of the most moderate of the Islamic states, hence why they have so many visitors. They simply do not want drugs to get a foothold in their society and so come down hard on any indiscretion.

Only 3 poppy seeds? How were the customs to know they had come from a poppy seed roll and couldn't be germenated?

Bit of hash in his trainer? Just happened to stick in there for the whole 7 hour journey Rolling Eyes

This country would be a better place to be without druggies running around mugging and stealing to feed their habits, Dubai does not have that problem, and aims to stay that way.

We have our cultures and laws, they have theirs, don't like it then don't visit
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craigie b · Citizen Smith Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Karma :

Kwak, yours views are twisted if you think zero tolerance should also cover microscopic traces found on a shoe. Tell you what, buy a bread roll and see how far you can cultivate 3 treated friggin seeds.

Personally I wouldn't go near the place with a shitty stick, they can arrest you even if you have traces in your blood stream, meaning they are in effect judging you by their laws for things you may have done in legally in another country. More over, the security are paid rewards for catching people out, so it is in their interests to pull people for ridiculous issues like a poppy seed.

As for the DJ, well he should have known better than to try and smuggle porn and drugs in.

craigie b · Citizen Smith Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Karma :

By the way, I think they are doing more damage to their own by encouraging trumped up charges like the previous ones mentioned as stories like these will do a lot to dissuade people from visiting the country thus taking money out of the local economy.

Kwaks · I'm not a fast rider Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Karma :

I am well aware that seeds from the roll will have been radiated to prevent germination, and prob why that particular person was released after the authorities investigated it.

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GhostRider · World Chat Champion Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Karma :

Ok,

Im a scientist by day, and 0.03g is ridiculously small, and bloody difficult to weigh out accurately as well. This is about half the size of a grain of rice>

Grooverider to be fair took the chance and paid the price, theres a difference between having a speck of cannibis on your shoe (not inside as was suggested earlier) and carrying in a couple of grams - you cant exactly plead ignorance to that. If your stupid enough to try an take that shit through a coutnry where you know they have harsh laws all for the sake of gettin a small buzz then I think an Oxygen Thief label is deserved.

There is no way in the world that giving a man 4 years for having a speck of cannibis is justified, it was said earlier that he;d probably get a royal pardon in a couple of months, as if that made it alrite then. The fact of the matter is that during this time the guy is still gonna be held in a dubai prison and his job/family are going to be directly affected by this.. The fact that he might get ff in a few months rather than a few years is hardly acceptable, since in my opinion he shouldnt even be there in the first place.

What I dont understand is why any of these people dont jsut get a forensic scientist - or even their bloody lawyer - to explain one of the fundamental tennets of forensics - The principle of transference - which basically states that by coming into contact with anything , a transference of material is made. Therefore, it is highly likely that this man may have brushed against someone, way back at gatwick airport or wherever, who had been smoking a J, or even caught the dust if he happened to pass someone who was rollin one up, and therefore through no violation of his own was carrying this grain of cannibis on him.

I was planning to go back to thailand at the end of the year and do a flight which changes at Dubai, but after hearing about this and other incidents i'll find an alternative route, theres no way im puttin myself at risk of being banged up for 4 years (which, I might add, is the MINIMUM sentence they impose, it could easily be longer....) for having a speck of whatever on me - no I dont partake of the foul weed myself, but I have friends who do, not to mention theres plenty of scallys you see at airports who could happen to transfer christ knows what onto me, an I'll be held responsible.

So yeah, Dubai can lick my sack.

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