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Ben.
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PostPosted: 11:39 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: police chase Reply with quote

completely hypothetical of course Razz

but i you ever did decide to do a runner im guessing the best place to go is somewhere with speed humps, narrow roads and into traffic if its in daylight. That and doing 100+ mph everywhere.

Even then i dont think that would work, police have more than 1 car and have helicopters if you cant get away quick enough.

Anyone ever actually done a runner and got away?
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you got to 100mph they would catch you.

Because you would come off regardless.
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would never do a runner from the police of course!! Mr. Green

But I always think the longer the chase goes on the more difficult it'd be to get away. So IF I was running from them, I'd try to get out of sight round a corner and very quickly park in a driveway and be hiding - just so the vehicle I was in would look like it was just parked and owned there...

Also, I'd only ever use roads I knew. The number of times you hear of 'runners' being caught out by dead ends, one way streets etc. Razz
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try looking on youtube, theres a video of someone on a R1 being chased by police in the us on a highway, the police cars are nowhere to be seen, but the helicopter keeps up and films the crash into the back of a car he doesnt slow down quick enough for Smile
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have done a few times.

In the UK I used to find the pedestrian paths in housing estates with the bollards and race down them.

Had one that started at the industrial estate and would spit you out near the train station so you rag it over the bridge and down into the train station and then down another pedestrian bit thats bollarded off which leads to another small industrial estate then you can either go out towards Bodicote via Cherwell Heights. or head back towards town and go to Warwick/Southam/Wroxton/Stratford. All this while they are still in Grimsbury area.

I know all the ways around Banbury.

If it was some where I didn't know I would use my speed to my advantage then head down some country roads.

If the helicopters out not sure dump the bike and find a populated area.
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trick seems to be making a decision at the start, as early as possible. Easiest seems to be on a motorway or similar, where lane splitting is possible. Making up extra ground at the start, then aiming for the traffic jams is what I'd advise.

Never heard of anyone outrunning a helicopter though.

Mind you, what do I know? I've never done it, of course.

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PostPosted: 12:06 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trick is local knowledge, and desperation. Alleyways and footpaths are your friend. I'll say no more Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Various web sources state police helicopters have a top end of 143mph ,

though this is if conditions are good and it isn't windy , and UK cops don't use coaxial unaffected as much by wind type helicopters
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PostPosted: 12:40 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, i would find the nearest underground station or british rail station and lob the bike in the train and wait til the next station (if the police hadn't figured out you been on one - or on the croydon tramlink Shocked , get off and re-rag.

If you're planning to run from the police - it's always a good idea to have velcroed plates - or in your case a stupidly small one Wink. I'd stay away from motorways since its too easy for the squad car to radio ahead.

I would go through a market or something of that sort, along canal paths, tunnels and stuff like that.

Local knowledge is a MUST, knowing all the local alleyways, stash-spots where you can hide your bike, or abandoned car parks/hospitals etc to lay low whilst the heat is about.

Or, i would go into somebody's garage or driveway and hide in a wheelie bin. The moment police come to open the bin, out i come and scare them with my arms flailing and roaring at them and making loud silly noises - a bonus would be to headbutt their chin with your lid and then remount their bike and head off - but that will result in assault!
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

wat i would do if there was no helicopter i would take my helmit of because police are not aloud to chase you incase you fall off ermmm not like iv done it or anything Rolling Eyes i no people that have and it works Wink
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know this was always my plan, for a erm get rich quick scheme while in an *isolated part of the country* ,

That area had no armed response team for 50 miles, and no helicopter for 90 miles other than Sea rescue.

You'd load it onto a bike, ride east at 110mph till you got to this tiny picnic area , where you could rip the paniers off bury them in pre dug holes, change your gear/helmet/boots/number plate. Put a baglux on to cover the tank change the plates,

ride back into town , and pretend to be shocked.

You would need to visit the get rich quick building before hand to give your DNA an alibi.
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PostPosted: 13:27 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruffriders wrote:
wat i would do if there was no helicopter i would take my helmit of because police are not aloud to chase you incase you fall off ermmm not like iv done it or anything Rolling Eyes i no people that have and it works Wink


I wouldn't bet your life on that. Police have to make an informed decision about the risk to life and limb.

If they believe that you are a risk to the public regardless then you'll be coming off regardless of gear that you are wearing.
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.cbr600f4.com/secondary_pages/phuzzy4.html

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PostPosted: 13:32 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea I did it once on my RVF, biggest adrenaline rush EVER. Then i was shitting my pants for months after as i forgot there are surveillance cameras in the town centre Shocked The copper wasn't that clever though obviously Laughing I went straight to my friends house, changed helmet and jacket and put my lights on.... basically trying to look as different as possible!

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PostPosted: 13:39 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

My instructor told me that if you were to ride away at speed from the police, they arent allowed to give chase due to the danger of you coming off / crashing. Not sure how true this is?
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ArseBiscuit wrote:
My instructor told me that if you were to ride away at speed from the police, they arent allowed to give chase due to the danger of you coming off / crashing. Not sure how true this is?


My friends a policeman and a biker.... He also stated that if he's in a car he isn't allowed to give chase due to danger... He just said drive like a nutter, they'll stop!
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's on your own bike i would'nt run they've got your reg plate they know who you are.
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Friend who also happens to ride a hornet Wink

He has been in a few chases from Traffic plod cars and has found some things to work well.

In one case he had only had the bike a week or so, and it wasent yet in his name. He had been riding fast on a big dual carriage way, had exited and was waiting at the traffic lights, in his mirror he saw flashing blue lights, being as late as it was and in light of his flagrant speeding, fight or flight kicked in and he nailed it.

Now this mate of mine only happened to be a couple of miles from home so was on home turf if you will, he managed to keep his distance from the pursuing traffic police volvo, and rapidly, as fast as he has ever been headed towards his new house (where the bike was not registered to), got enough of a lead over the car, that once on his road he killed his lights and nipped quickly down a side alley and immediately killed the engine, to which the police car went screaming off down the road they assumed he had continued down. That was one very naughty but exhilirating dodge...

I would say if you are on the motorway or far from home and you dont know the area there isnt much point in running, at full pursuit speed how much petrol you gonna have? 80/100 miles if your tank was full when you started?, likely you had like half a tank, those volvo's have Mahoosive tank ranges, and backup is but a radio call away. Also in a straight line those Volvo's could pace most bikes on top speed? Its your acceleration that will let you escape, you want maybe A roads with roundabouts you can straightline

In short if you are going to run, decide early and have a plan of where you are going and what your gonna do when you get there. And if you were low on petrol unless you really have something to hide its prolly best to just pull over...
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

strange enough i was thinking about this at work, then begun thinking of a route i could take... Not that I'm ever going to run, theres no point on a restricted CB400 Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Egret wrote:
https://www.cbr600f4.com/secondary_pages/phuzzy4.html

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That yank twat reckons bikes corner easier than cars and have better braking. Rolling Eyes

I stopped reading, I wouldn't take his advice to be fair.
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

he also said that youd be screwed if you came to gridlocked traffic Confused Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's actually pretty easy to loose them.
The cops are trained (in the US) to take the next Right if they loose sight of the bike because thats most likely where the bike went. In the UK it would obviously be turn Left....

If you know this ahead of time then once you are out of sight you simply head in the other direction & 95% of the time the cops will go the other way....
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being a cop, if people didn't run - there wouldn't be any point having pursuit trained officers.

Keep up the good work. Wink
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only people who are likely to run and get away with it are those that are riding unregistered or stolen bikes or have such a numberplate the size of a matchbox. Otherwise the police car will most likely have your registration number before he even puts his lights on, so no matter if you evade him or not you're nailed.
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

DynamiteBoy wrote:
My friends a policeman and a biker.... He also stated that if he's in a car he isn't allowed to give chase due to danger... He just said drive like a nutter, they'll stop!


Wouldn't that be the point where they would call for the helicopter though?
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