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| Quote: | I apparently first encountered this concept, amusingly enough, in an episode of Red Dwarf:
Rimmer: They say that every society is only three meals away from revolution. Deprive a culture of food for three meals, and you'll have an anarchy.
I spent this morning trying to find the "real" source for that, but can't. It appears that it may have actually been a made-up quote. Regardless of it's pedigree, though, it has certainly proven to be true, given the events in New Orleans.
In the first 24 hours -- the first three meals -- society hadn't really "broken down" yet... people were waiting to be rescued, holing up wherever they were, dealing with crappy conditions and accepting them as temporary (or at least, anyway, that's the way it seemed here watching it all on TV).
After 24 hours, though -- when you'd gone past the third missed meal -- all hell seems to have truly broken loose. Rape and murder inside the alleged safe-haven Superdome, police themselves became looters (I saw a nice AP photo of this, with a cop walking out of a wal-mart his hands full of DVDs and it looked like stemware, but I can't find the picture now), you name it, it happened.
In fact, to anyone who's read Stephen King's "The Stand", this seemed like you were watching a real live televised interpretation of the first third of the book. If you were a Christian person, living in NOLA, you might seriously wonder if you were witnessing the "end times". |
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Find out how your local MP voted regarding these issues and then if you find he/she's a traitor then hound them for all your worth.
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Posted: 23:38 - 06 Mar 2008  Post subject: |
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Where do I start? (don't take this too negatively Harold)
| Quote: | Unelected EU shit-sucking fuck-pigs are to run the whole of Europe |
.....You're right there.
| Quote: | Did we want ID cards? No. Are we getting them? Yes. |
.....So who was it you voted for at the last general election?
| Quote: | All these things and many more. I'm unhappy. What do we do? |
.....Good question, but are you really prepared to do something about it?
| Quote: | Find out how your local MP voted regarding these issues and then if you find he/she's a traitor then hound them for all your worth. |
- Kris
That's right! It's your MP who is shafting you, but most of them are only doing it because they a lilly-livered.
People all around the country are visiting their MP's and confronting them with this situation. MP's usually regurgitate the usual party spin but when forcefully told they are liars and they are supposed to represent their constituencies, they often lose control and admit to being forced to vote in favour of the treaty.
The eleventh hour fast approaches and there is plenty happening in the background, it's just a matter of how much you are prepared to do.
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| Posted: 08:41 - 07 Mar 2008 Post subject: |
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That's right! It's your MP who is shafting you, but most of them are only doing it because they a lilly-livered.
People all around the country are visiting their MP's and confronting them with this situation. MP's usually regurgitate the usual party spin but when forcefully told they are liars and they are supposed to represent their constituencies, they often lose control and admit to being forced to vote in favour of the treaty.
The eleventh hour fast approaches and there is plenty happening in the background, it's just a matter of how much you are prepared to do.
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yeah but what does this do? , my MP was exposed as a liar on national TV no less than 4 times, he spouted the party line 4 times and walked out of 2 of these TV interviews, they have no shame and therefore all we are doing is affirming our beliefs.
It was about a national hospital closure policy he voted FOR it, which meant the Bury hospital was going to be closed down and is being incrementally shut down (maternity is gone), he came back spouted his lies and was heckled and exposed as a liar to everybody and there was even a small march to keep it open , he addressed the crowd and lied even more and didn't even blush.
Now if we had a policy of executions for lies we may have something but we don't.
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| Posted: 13:50 - 07 Mar 2008 Post subject: |
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From another thread....."I can't take this shit anymore.........
Aaaaaaagggggghhhhhhhh!
Government = scum. I vote we kick them all out tomorrow, who's with me? "
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Thing is nothings gonna happen till someone takes a stand, and even at that point you'd need a large number of supporters behind you. Even then what do you do?
The elected govt won't listen to us.. Mostly because the guy in charge wasn't elected he just happens to be running the country, he knows he won't get back so he's just letting it run wild.
Biggest problem is our government is run almost entirely by the older generation, who would have started young with radical ideas and so on, and by the time they get to a position of power their ideas are out of date and they have little contact with the real world so nothing the current generation wants will be adhered too.
If someone said to me there's a protest against the lack of a referendum going on in the city centre, I'd probably go down and join in.. But who is going to organise it?
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On Your mark... get set... GO!!!!
Thanks Ces and Kris, it's simple  . I've been absolutely sucked in by the 'well, they're bastards and there's nothing I can do'.
Infact, for so early in the morning and to say I'm watching 'The Thimbles', I'm feeling quite inspired.
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Internet. What a thing to be on the end of.
How *My MP* voted on key issues since 2001:
Voted very strongly against a transparent Parliament. votes, speeches
Voted moderately against introducing a smoking ban. votes, speeches
Voted strongly against introducing ID cards. votes, speeches
Voted a mixture of for and against introducing foundation hospitals. votes, speeches
Voted strongly against introducing student top-up fees. votes, speeches
Voted moderately against Labour's anti-terrorism laws. votes, speeches
Voted very strongly for the Iraq war. votes, speeches
Voted strongly for an investigation into the Iraq war. votes, speeches
Voted very strongly for replacing Trident. votes, speeches
Voted very strongly against the hunting ban. votes, speeches
Voted moderately against equal gay rights. votes, speeches
Mmm. He sounds alright to me.
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I think something I'm not sure what will happen due to hyper price inflation sometime soon if you've been watching the markets currently the £ is falling to bits on the open market = more price increases.
My thoughts are the thing that lights the powder keg which has been slowly filling for many years is Digital TV switch over many will not be able to be distracted by this , and missing Eastenders or corrination street will cause a revolution.
Unfortunately big brother has machine guns and it may well be a replay of 1989 Tianmen square , which the BBC anchormen and women will be forced at gunpoint to spin it to the government's choosing.
Even worse the government currently has emergency anti terrorism laws to allow machine guns to be used against civilians.
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Itchy, stop assuming you average British public are going to uprise because of hyperinflation, because right now 9 out of 10 don't give a fuck! You're assuming our population have an ounce of intelligence!
Bearing in mind that most people read "The Sun" or "The Mirror" who lick the government's ass, they aren't going to understand what hyperinflation is and will be looking to the sky for giant helium balloons.
The only thing that will cause a proper revolution will be when the lazy get their welfare cut, cause these are the people that litter out street with violence and scum.
Also your Digital TV analogy holds no water because at least 75% of people are prepared for it and it's not exactly a bad thing, Digital TV is so obviously superior to analogue TV, the only people who care are the elderly, and have our government ever given a shit about the old and war veterans? The very people who saved our country from Nazi'ism? Have they fuck.
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I like my MP to be honest, he has never really put a foot wrong and is very open, so writing to him when I know he is against the EU, would be rather pointless.
How David Laws voted on key issues since 2001:
Has never voted on a transparent Parliament. votes, speeches
Voted moderately against introducing a smoking ban. votes, speeches
Voted moderately against introducing ID cards. votes, speeches
Voted strongly against introducing foundation hospitals. votes, speeches
Voted strongly against introducing student top-up fees. votes, speeches
Voted strongly against Labour's anti-terrorism laws. votes, speeches
Voted very strongly against the Iraq war. votes, speeches
Voted very strongly for an investigation into the Iraq war. votes, speeches
Voted very strongly against replacing Trident. votes, speeches
Voted strongly for the hunting ban. votes, speeches
Voted moderately for equal gay rights. votes, speeches
Read about how the voting record is decided.
More on well-known issues (from the Guardian) & their full record
Hardly ever rebels against their party in this parliament.
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