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damz
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 12 Mar 2008    Post subject: Single Sided swingarms Reply with quote

What do you all think of single sided swingarms? everytime someone looks at my rvf they say they love the single sided swingarm. if people like it a lot why are there hardly any new bikes with them?

I personally love them, makes the bike look so much tidier.
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 12 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

They are heavier and / or not as strong as a conventional swinging arm.

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PostPosted: 21:54 - 12 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like the look of them.dont know why. I've just always been a fan of symmetry I guess. never had a bike with one so couldn't comment on any difference in the ride.
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 12 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

as above, but they do look the dogs danglies!

ala 1098
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 12 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because less weight = better performance, every year we get lighter more powerful bikes , shave a bit of weight off here and there and you make the acceleration better.

Single swingers tend (not in all cases) to weigh a fair bit more than conventional swing arms.

And there is little need for them, hence its just a luxury unless you are an endurance racer,
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 12 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just love the look.
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 12 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

they're class, I love a big exposed wheel on the none swing arm side. For me it was one of the main aesthetic draws of the NC30. Although I do like the racing style oversized swingarms too.

I guess the reason you don't see more is because they're expensive to implement ? Love it on the Dukes too

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PostPosted: 22:28 - 12 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

the suzuki crosscage looks sweet with its single swing arm and single fork, i'd well buy it if i had the cash
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 12 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine is a single sider, only option with my bike, makes no difference with me. BUT Dukati's and Hondas can be a right PITA if the chain adjusters are neglected and seize up.
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PostPosted: 23:59 - 12 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks Drooling

i think its the rs125/250's swing arm.... yummy Drooling
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damz
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 13 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finglonga wrote:
Mine is a single sider, only option with my bike, makes no difference with me. BUT Dukati's and Hondas can be a right PITA if the chain adjusters are neglected and seize up.


yeh i had a lot of trouble trying to adjust the chain on my rvf, had to hammer the crap out of the adjuster and spray loads of wd40 before it became workable.
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PostPosted: 00:30 - 13 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the way I can ride my VFR to the motorbike shop, undo four nuts and lift the wheel off. When they've fitted the tyre, bung it back on, four nuts and away I go.

None of this pulling the spindle out and removing the brake calliper, dropping spacers all over the place then trying to jiggle everything back into place while sliding the spindle back through. My wheel is off or on in under 1 minute, no hassle, 1 tool.
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PostPosted: 01:20 - 13 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You got a clean VFR Stinkwheel... I just image your bike to be a VFR rat for some reason Karma

SSSA are the dogs. I've got a full VFR800 rear end (arm, disc, sprocket claipers, wheel with new tyre) waiting in my garage for the right fighter project (ie a fireblade)... also a VFR400 swingarm /rear with wheel too... I like sssa Thumbs Up

MY old honda BROS650 had one Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 01:44 - 13 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 main benefits really...
Wheel can be removed and replaced pretty damn quick.

And the Rear brake disk is in the center line of the bike. Supposedly giving more stable braking mid corner etc.

They do look f**king cool too. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:16 - 13 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

i like them as well,
i even went to the trouble of fitting a triumph one to me ratfighter.
loads of hassle but well worth it Very Happy
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 13 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

vmax.dude wrote:
You got a clean VFR Stinkwheel... I just image your bike to be a VFR rat for some reason Karma


Well, most people wouldn't regard it as 'clean'. 'Dirty' would probably be more appropriate but yes, it is without serious modification.

I aint messed with it because I do too many miles on it and ride it too fast to be takign a chance with altering stuff. I have learned before that once you get over a certain speed, even small changes to the aerodynamics can make a huge difference.

Try riding a GPZ500 at anything over 120mph without a belly pan on. It's ok as long as you don't mind weaving slowly from edge to edge of your lane.

Remember the original ethos of a RAT bike is one that is ridden all the time and maintained at minimum cost. As such, the VFR is a rat, I don't spend money on cosmetics and fripperies, I got a stainless ehxaust because it wont rust, not because it looks good.

The best way to keep a bike like that on the road and working well for minimum cost is to keep it serviced and keep it standard. The only deviations should be in items that make it either easier to ride and work on or more reliable.

A VFR is a good rat bike because it is inherantly reliable in the first place. The 750 in particular on account of it's hugely robust engine (gear driven cams, no VTEC etc.). If it had a shaft drive or an enclosed chain, it would be perfect.
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PostPosted: 10:01 - 13 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

My GPZ would only just hit an indicated 120.
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 13 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

they look awesome

https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/2008/CB1000R/images/gallery_large_02.jpg

https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/2008/CB1000R/images/gallery_large_06.jpg
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