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alun111
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PostPosted: 08:25 - 14 Mar 2008    Post subject: Would a bike fail it's mot... Reply with quote

if the front disk was slightly warped?

It's my mate's bike and to begin with the disk was rather warped and he's managed to straighten it by hitting it with a mallet. Do they think it could return to it's previous warpedness when he starts to use the bike and heat is generated?

Any other ways to straighten a disk?

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PostPosted: 08:28 - 14 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. Depends how bad, but they can fail on warped disks.
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PostPosted: 08:40 - 14 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your reply, any idea if the straightening technique my mate used is likely to reversed when heat is applied to the disk during braking? Cheers
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PostPosted: 08:43 - 14 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure I'm afraid, but regarding the braking system as a whole and what it does I would rather just buy new disks for piece of mind, but that's just me.

Don't be surprised if it goes back as it heats up.

I also suppose you could in theory have weakened the disk by hammering it straight?
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PostPosted: 08:57 - 14 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
I also suppose you could in theory have weakened the disk by hammering it straight?


What would this mean?

I would personally also get a new disk, but hey my mate thinks he's sorted it and would rather not buy a new one, he'd buy second hand if he could find one.

The only place we've found new is wemoto and it's £90. It's for an 03 honda xl125 varadero. Any ideas?
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PostPosted: 09:00 - 14 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

alun111 wrote:
Big_Ham wrote:
I also suppose you could in theory have weakened the disk by hammering it straight?


What would this mean?



Don't know what the effect would be, but if you constantly bend metal when it's cold it eventually snaps due to metal fatigue right?

No disks on ebay, you could try some breakers?
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PostPosted: 09:04 - 14 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:


Don't know what the effect would be, but if you constantly bend metal when it's cold it eventually snaps due to metal fatigue right?

No disks on ebay, you could try some breakers?


Well as we're in the same job and both get paid in 2 weeks I'll start some parts requests then

Cheers for your help.

Anyone got anything else to add/ their views?
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 14 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine were very slightly warped on ZX7R, the effect was only really noticed at low speed.
The garage i took it to know me quite well, not sure if that makes a difference but it was called up as an advisory to be fixed. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 14 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will not straighten a warped disk by hitting it with a mallet! That's ridiculous.

My dad tried to sort a warped disk on my bandit by filing off the worst bit.

It depends on the testing centre too, my mate bought a mille that had just failed its MOT on warped disks. He took it straight to his local centre on the off chance it passed, and they didn't notice anything.

Not sure if it was just the tester wasn't quite as 'on it' or if they had different testing equipment. Because the brake testing machine should show it up. The needle would wobble if a disk is warped and they would feel pulsing.

You could sort a slightly warped disk with a lathe, but it's worth buying a new one. (Or second hand).

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PostPosted: 21:42 - 14 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazdaman wrote:
You will not straighten a warped disk by hitting it with a mallet!


Well that's what he did. So...

I know a dodgy m.o.t tester I could take it to, but that's NOT the reason I want to get it motd.

Technically the bike doesn't need an mot for another year as it's an 06 frame, but wanted to get it done for piece of mind. I wanted to be sure that it's safe. You can only be so sure of it yourself as a diy mechanic.
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PostPosted: 16:49 - 15 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ebay isn't the only source for second hand parts. Ring round the breakers!!!

Also the disc on the bike may be the same disc as on another model, you may want to check this out.

Bodging or skimping paying out for anything brake related is a silly game to be playing.
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 15 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

alun111 wrote:
I know a lenient m.o.t tester I could take it to, but that's NOT the reason I want to get it motd.


Corrected for you Thumbs Up

If it was myself in your situation i think i'd be buying new discs, As i go heavy on the brakes at times and would hate to have a disc give way Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 01:28 - 16 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.K.R wrote:
alun111 wrote:
I know a lenient m.o.t tester I could take it to, but that's NOT the reason I want to get it motd.


Corrected for you Thumbs Up

If it was myself in your situation i think i'd be buying new discs, As i go heavy on the brakes at times and would hate to have a disc give way Thumbs Up


Nope, he's definately DODGY, he takes 2 minutes to check the basic functions of the bike and then puts it through the computer as a fail and tells you to wait 15 minutes so he can fast track it. He doesn't even use the roller test thing that according to my local garage is a legal requirement.
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PostPosted: 02:01 - 16 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

alun111 wrote:
Nope, he's definately DODGY, he takes 2 minutes to check the basic functions of the bike and then puts it through the computer as a fail and tells you to wait 15 minutes so he can fast track it. He doesn't even use the roller test thing that according to my local garage is a legal requirement.


In that case report him. Dont mind testers that'll let the odd loud can/small plate through but thats ripping the piss.
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