Calling all stunters, kitten killers and trackday tricksters

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It is a bit of a long post, I am sorry, but please read on I need help.
Much karma for help and advice
I've only been back on tha road two days now after a two month gap, but I'm trying to continue learning all aspects of riding, especially stunting.

Some say its hard on a 125 stroker, and I've seen heaps of shit youtube videos of puny stunt video attempts.
But to tha contrary, I have also seen a few outstanding ones and I know tha NSR may be lacking in power, but a good workman should never blame his tools.

MY PROBLEM IS... I can't wheelie, I could before my crash manage at most to get a wheelie (at a good enough angle, at least 3 1/2 ft up) to last just over 2 metres, and that was basically from cruising at 5mph.

I can burnout an NSR, WITHOUT propping tha front wheel against tha curb, not that I'm to fond of replacing tyres so I tend not to. (Burnouts are for squids or preferably stunters with money.)

I have been working on stoppies, for some reason I'm quite confident in my learning of this, I have only tried static stoppies under 30mph so far but I picked it back up again earlier and managed to do my best one ever, which had my bike at least 45% tilted forward.

I am very confident with my overall riding ability, and I think I can do all of tha no handed and balance stuff, seeing as I can sit on tha tank and change gears from 10mph>75mph or sit on tha tank no handed from 15mph> 65mph.

I have only tried revving at minus 9k revs tonight, and been experimenting with clutch timing ect.
But I'm not happy at all with my lack of progress, Its one of my goals to have mastered wheelies on this bike before I have owned it a year, which gives me a deadline of tha 26th next month :S

I am not entirely sure in my technique, I do not lean back or anything as I thought I would see how far I could take it up just by dropping tha clutch... I am aware of tha process that is required to wheelie tha average 'big bike', but I'm wondering are there any additional needs for small unconventional bikes?

I need to know a few things:
What is tha smallest machine you have wheelied on? (not counting pitbikes).
How long did it take you to learn to wheelie?
How many times have you binned it?
This may sound stupid:
Is it possible to power wheelie a NSR?
How should I apply tha throttle?
For far up tha revs should I go? (Redlined it for my best wheelie at 12k, reline starts about 11k and ends at 13.5k I think.)

Please I need all tha good tips, advice and encouragement you can give.
Please be very honest about your experiences, as I have maned up and admitted I'm struggling I'd expect tha same from posters, I need to find out what I can relate too because that is a great motivational tool for me.

Thankyou all.[/b]

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Thankyou very much thats pretty much exactly what I needed .
I did state that at most I can get it close to balance point... I THINK, just over two metres, my real aim is to manage consistent wheelies at at least 10-20m, that would be great.
I know my bike is far from Ideal, but I really like a challenge, and tha difficulty is sort of tha point
But anyway thankyou your help is invaluable.

[Sparks!]

You are no where near balance point whatsoever if you only hold it for 2 meters. You are probably about 2 ft of the ground and just popping it up then down again.

I need to know a few things:
What is tha smallest machine you have wheelied on? (not counting pitbikes).

I think I can wheelie pretty much any bike now.

How long did it take you to learn to wheelie?

Basic wheelies, not long...

How many times have you binned it?

This week or this year? either way too many times to mention, but I have only flipped a wheelie about twice and both were on crossers at slow speed.. I've fallen off my CBR but never actually flipped a wheelie ending up on my arse. (that I can remember) think I fucked up a sit down -foot down once which kinda hurt


This may sound stupid:
Is it possible to power wheelie a NSR?

Not realistically

How should I apply tha throttle?

By twisting it.

For far up tha revs should I go? (Redlined it for my best wheelie at 12k, reline starts about 11k and ends at 13.5k I think.)

forget the rev counter, forget figures.. just go by how the bike reacts... pop the clutch at low revs, see what happens.. then gradually go up the revs until you find where it best pops up...

Please I need all tha good tips, advice and encouragement you can give.

In all honesty I wouldn't bother with your 125.... unless you want to stunt properly and don't care about crashing, you're not really going to learn too well on the NSR... An experienced stunter would managed to wheely it fine but its not ideal for learning on if you don't want to damage it........................ a bigger 4 stroke bike, albeit more expensive to crash, is a bit more user friendly to learn on.
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[Sparks!]

[quote=LukeVfr]I dunno where I wanna go with wheelies. I really wanna get into the slow stuff like Sparks! but there's just no where to do it really, and no one understands the skill it takes. To the average person, a 150mph wheelie will look far more impressive than someone going along at 5mph, which is really all wrong.[/quote]

I disagree! A 30/40mph wheelie down the highstreet is just as impressive to "people" as a 150mph wheelie down the motorway... especially if you're sat on the tank or standing on the seat "people" tend to be suprisingly easy to please though a gay static burnout gets "people" going the most
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[Mac_Black]

Thanks Sparks I'll rate you when I can, I'm not really afraid to crash it atm because it is stripped down and I have allot of replacement parts ready to be fitted.
I know its really unorthodox to do it on a 125 but being me its just something I feel I wanna do.

P.S. when I asked how to apply tha throttle, I meant do I need to flick it back or anything after I release tha clutch?

[Dischord]

All I ever used to do was slow wheelies on my DT125 due to lack of power! but some of them guys on youtube can hold them up for ages...just practise mate, there isn't a day goes by that I don't think about popping that DT up on one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiG9Fj25mgk
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