Section 59 ??

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A while back i was riding along on my dtr125,when a lad i know come alongside me on his ped trying to talk to me.e.t.c.
So in the opposite direction was a cop car who promptly turned around when he seen the lad along side me.

The "ped boi" fcked off as he is banned,no insurance e.t.c. so i carryed on as they chased him.
Couple of minutes passed and they were soon behind me with the blue lights going,so i pulled over (me thinking,no big deal,i was'nt speeding and was as allways totally legit).

I was then told because i did'nt give the lads name they would give me a section 59 even though i did nowt wrong.

So anyway some time later,i was riding on a unused off road track (which used to be called walker wheels,and was a place everyone could pay to ride their bikes on the land but ended up shutting down)
I seen a copper near there when i was on my way to the land,and asked him before i went on if it was ok to have a play on there,and he said "if i dont see you on there it's nothing to do with me" so i thought he was basicly saying,yes you can but i cant tell you ya can..
So next day i was back there and the same copper come along with another cop,and took my bike off me,giving me another section 59.
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So that's the story...
So what happens now that i have 2 section 59's? does it reset itself so im not allowed another one before i get my bike took off me again? or is it i step out of line again they take it straight off me?

As far as im aware,all the cops need is some member of the public saying i was riding like a tit/popping wheelies,regardless of wether i did or not,they can give you section 59's for it ?

I know theres at least one cop on here,so id love some advice on this..


Cheers
Dave

[thegubner]

Sounds like you found an arse of a copper.

I would go to the station, make a complaint against him, formally.

See if anything happens.

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I did m8,and since then he pulls me everytime he sees me,as does most of the coppers(or at least they did until i sold the dtr)

Its just a matter of time before he finds out what im riding now,and it starts all over again.

And yes he is WELL known around here for being a twat.
But when he give me what i thought was his permission to go on the land i thought he might have been ok.

I just know when he does pull me again and know what im riding,he will be trying to nik me for the least little thing again.

[Hetzer]

Section 59, another piece of dumb-ass nazi legislation that has the feck abused out of it on a daily basis by criminal pigs. Make a formal complaint against the scumbag. It won't stick but it stays on his record, and if he gets too many it will be held against him.
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[thegubner]

Get a solicitor and apply for legal aid, make a proper complaint of harassment.

Write to your local MP, fook it write to downing street as well, make as many references to this coppers name as you can, contact the local press, drag his name through the mud, if he ends up sacked he deserves it for not doing his job properly and acting a bully.


I have no idea on the legalities and formalities of it all but that is the route I would be taking.

[Hetzer]

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When i made a complaint about him,the bloke i made the complaint to just said,it sounded to him like the cop told me i was not allowed on the land,i just took it the wrong way (bullshit)

Then said about him stopping me all the time,he was within his rights to stop check anyone they see fit,and that he would look into it to see if the blokes got a grudge.

Never heard anything more of it,and it all happened before xmas.

Some say,once you get 2 section 59's they take your bike/car off you,then it goes back to being allowed 2 again before it's took off you the second time?

Some say they stick with you for good...
Really confusing,and the cops couldnt/wouldnt give me much info about the section 59 law

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[Ste]

First section 59 warning is just that, a warning.

Get caught again within 6 or 12 months (forget which it is, do some Googling to find out) and they can take your vehicle off you.

Good luck if you're trying complaining about it, but I'd say you caught bang to rights.

[sickpup]

Read this.

[Paivi]

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[Hetzer]

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[tutton]

Id also be demanding any physical proof of the offence you have commited, possibly any cars you remember that were infront or behind you could possibly find the owner if their local for a witness statement.
From what your telling us, the police didnt find you till after they had went after the kid, did you try make the point that if another biker pulls up beside you, dosnt mean you know them?
Id also look around the area you were, and where you got stopped, maybe see if there are any security cameras about, and get in touch with the local council, as if im correct your legally abliged to obtain footage that has you in it. even if it is only the small section showing you.
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[thegubner]

Well I would not have answered the phone, or you could have answered and said I am busy with the police at the moment, I will ring you back later.


Then you could have just stuck to not knowing him.

[Hetzer]

[Visitor Q]

Never even heard of a S59 i'll be honest, but thought this a good enough opportunity to give a slightly nicer view of the pols for once.

On saturday i was out for a mates 21st, it allwent pearshaped (terrible planning and no one listened to me ) so anyhew eventually i got asked by some semi comatose girl huddled on the floor to borrow my phone. This is in a big leisure park with a history of violence and general nastiness (stevenage). I leant it to her and told the other guys to find the rest of the group and i'd wait with her abit.

It soon emerged her phone was knackered, she didn't have money, was obviously pickled silly and lived a fair few miles away. Ever the problem solver i ran through her options, which werent many but one involved pleading idiocy with the meat wagon across the road. Hell, embaressment/night in the cells beats hypothermia or rape. Anyhew i eventually dragged her over there, and had to argue with the copper a fair bit to take me seriously, little gobshite. But eventually he said thanks and i left them to it. Having been drinking viciously for 5 hours and wasted 20 minutes talking to her, i was desperate for a slash, so went for a wee piss in the bushes nearby.

Just as the flow starts, 4 coppers wander by with some idiot they had collared who promptly points out i'm pissing. One copper splits off and smugly points out i've just landed myself a £60 fine. I say;
'To be fair mate, i'm going in the bushes AND i've just done my good samaritan shit for the night dropping off a stranded drunk girl at the riot van by X club...'
Copper;
'Alright, i didn't see anything' and didn't even break gait, just left

So for once there was a nice bit of discretion shown by the fuzz

Just thought i'd share that one. As for your situation, punch him in the tits
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I once pissed through a gap in the doors of a bed shop when drunk, it used to be Halfords in southend near the hogs head, there was a bed by the door and a gap inbetween them, my mate was home on leave from the Army and we were steaming drunk and decided it would be a good idea.

We took turns, it was funny, we covered the corner of a bed, but thinking back I feel a bit sorry for the poor sod who had to open up.


Yep you guessed it, not a copper in sight.

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