Nice ways of asking for money back?

[thegubner]

Ok I have never had to do this with a private sale before so I am asking for a polite way of telling him the bike is shite he is a lying cvnt (trying for karma) and I want my money back.


Needs to be polite hence the thread.


Problems with bike.

1) tyre valve broken.
2) petrol cap comletely broken and bodged.
3) radiator leaking rusty water like a good un.
4) Now wont start (problems in workshop section)
5) just got log book back and realised its an import (general bike chat)


Now I should have gone round the bike a bit more than I did before I handed him the cash, that was my fault and I was prepared to put up with the small problems as such. But I get the log book back to me today and she is an import which i am assuming means the MPH clocks are replacements which means the milage he told me and shown on clocks will be wrong, I would have no problem buying it if it was mentioned. I noticed he only got the bike in november which screams to me he tried finding a mug punter (enter me ) to take the problems away from him.

I aint a happy bunny now with the log book coming through today and I am going to his house tonight as I cannot find his phone number online.

The bike was in advertised in a bike shop window and the bloke at the shop read the ad out on the phone to me. When I rang the bloke in question and asked him a few questions like ....."anything wrong?...........Runs fine?...........Anything I need to know? He gave me all the right answers and told me everything was fine nothing was wrong. Hence me not looking over the bike properly and just assuming that a geezer who lived in the same town would be honest as he knew I could be at his house in 10 minutes.

Yes I know I am a prick for getting caught up in the drama of being back on two wheels and just wanting to buy it.

Any suggestions.

[GhostRider]

Why does it need to be polite if he's obviously been deceptive in selling you the bike and taking cash off yours hands??
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[NSR Mick]

What does it say on the receipt he did for you?
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[MrRoper]

Im not sure what the law is regarding private sales, but i always thought that caveat emptor applied here in the uk

If thats the case is there anything you can do?

If he aint that big i would just threaten him for the money!
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[thegubner]

[Fawbish]

Guvs got the right idea. Polite is the way to go...at first.



If he starts being a cock, knock him the fuck out, ride the bike into his living room, smack his wife's arse, tell his kid/kids they're adopted, burnout in the front room (if the bike is capable), steal whatever is in his front room to make your money back and leave a love letter that cant be traced, just to add a dash of humour to the situation.



Make a comprehensive list of everything thats wrong Guv, then split that into stuff that really isnt on, as in, what would really validate you taking it back.

Take it round and be nice...yet train subtly at how to make yourself imposing and scary whilst being completely pleasant.


Was this guy a weed?
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Private sale, so you have no real legal recourse unless he was dishonest when answering your specific questions.

The issues you have are (except for it not starting) pretty minor and obvious, and with the starting it may well just be something simple. Until you have a look no way of knowing.

Basically your will be relying on the sellers good nature to give you the money back.

All the best

Keith
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[thegubner]

[Kickstart]

[thegubner]

[UnknownStuntm...]

imho you're not gonna get very far with this one. Especially since you've had it a week and it was running during that time.

If I sell something, I get a twitchy sphincter for the first day after the sale, after that it's up to them. After all they could have ragged the tits off it and knackered it themselves.

But yeah, go talk to the guy. If he's reasonable he might offer something like 'get someone to look at it' for you.

[thegubner]

To be fair, if he offers me 100 quid to help make the problem go away I will be happy.

[D O G]

You've no chance IMO.

If he was the sort of bloke to give you a refund when politely asked, he's the sort of bloke who would not sell you a bike he knowingly knew to be dodgy.

He will only give it to you (the money that is) if he feels he MUST, i.e. is threatened. I'm not suggesting you do that, since I wouldn't and it would have potentially bad consequences for you.

Try it on though, but I think you will end up more pissed off than you are now, and are you sure you can keep you're cool if he just tells you to fuck off?

Take a shit in a bag and post it through his letterbox (sans bag).

And next time don't trust them, especially when its a 20 year old bike!!

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It's a bit shit when things like this happen,but it sounds to me like you just rushed into buying it,took the sellers word for everything...e.t.c.(Silly barstuard)
And you rode it home did'nt you?
As far as the sellers concerned it was useable when you took it,not his fault if it has developed a fault in the 2 week you've had it.

I would go to his house,explain the things wrong with the bike,and tell him your not happy with it,if he starts to act like a dick,tell him you will get the filfth involved.
If he still is'nt bothered,then you have no choice but to give up on it.(or turn to anger )

[Kickstart]

[thegubner]

Does anyone know of anywhere on the web to find a phone number with a name and address?

I have tried 192 but no joy.

[map]

FWIW and slightly off topic but maybe useful as a lesson learnt. A few years ago I had a bash at knocking up a bill of sale/receipt.

Intended for sellers but might be useful to buyers (bring your own receipt, suitable worded and get the seller to sign it). As said private sales can be iffy w.r.t. the law and your rights. However, I always think something is better than nothing. At least that way there's maybe the small claims court (or whatever it's called now - on the basis that if a signed bit of paper says it's ok and it's not).

See this thread (clicky) and scroll to bottom for the later ones.


BTW these aren't intended as 'legal' documents, I don't pretend to be a legal expert (but would love their salary ). They're just something to cover your ass.

On topic, best of luck. Post to let us know how you get on.

HTH
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[Raffles_Gentleman Thug]

If you buy a bike for £350, the chances are it's going to be a shitter.

Take this one on the chin; you've barely a leg to stand on legally - and trying to push for money back could turn sour.

Sorry it's probably not the answer you want to hear.

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Try something like THIS

I have a disk somewhere to do exactly this....will have a look for it.

Nope not a clue where i have put that...
But it's a programme called uk info.you should find it no time if you do a search for torrents for it....

[thegubner]

[UnknownStuntm...]

[Ste]

How much did you pay for the bike that you expected to be perfect in every way so didn't bother to look it over?

[thegubner]

[Robby]

You bought it, you had the oppurtunity to check it over, which on a £350 quid bike is necessary, and surprise surprise its a £350 quid dog. I like every other bike for the money.

I'd tell you to fuck off.

[thegubner]