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Whosthedaddy
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 27 Mar 2008    Post subject: Plucking up the courage, how'd you do it? Reply with quote

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How did you build up confidence to tour, or even for that matter to go beyond your 'comfort zone'.

Its hard to sometimes get round your mental blocks, but I have one that even effects me to some degree in the car.

Distance. Embarassed

At the moment my comfort zone falls into a very small radius of maybe 20-30 miles.

The idea of being stranded somewhere in the middle of 'no where' and having to seek help or assistance, running out of fuel, and most of all being lost.

Reading some of the threads on here makes having a bike almost worthwhile for the sense of adventure it can bring, and I want a part of that but at the same time I am freaked out by the thought of it.

What did you do?

Little by little and then longer and longer, or just whole hog and off to Timbucktoo and back first time out?
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 27 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny you should ask that. I've been planning to go to the Barcelona motogp in June, and yesterday I realised that I've never been further than about 150 miles away from home on my bike, and I'm planning a 4000 mile trip!

So I thought to myself I'll go for ride tonight (last night), as I rarely ride in the wet or on motorways or at night and that it'd probably be a good idea to get some experience of all 3 conditions.

So out came the 7r for the 1st time in ages, after 10 miles on the M6 the wind, hail and sleet started, HARD!! I had no waterproofs on, everything was soaking within minutes, boots were full of water, and hands were stinging etc etc. Then the bike started mis-firing, so I stopped for a cig, turned round and came back. It was hard work, and my hands were in pain from being soaked and have 120 mph cold wind hitting em, but I made it back in one piece.

Not the best ride ever, but still found it fun and it gave me the extra confidence I needed to put my mind at rest that my trip is do-able! I did 150 mile in 2 hours including 3 fuel/ciggy breaks. Also changed my my mind about taking waterproofs when I go, a definate must take!

I know it's a bit of a cliche, but just get out there. So long as ya got breakdown cover and a mobile phone what's the worst that can happen?
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 27 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

yellowninja wrote:
So long as ya got breakdown cover and a mobile phone what's the worst that can happen?


Got and got.

Even bought a phone with sat nav to try and give me some braveness about the lost part.

Question about the 7. Whats do you get from a tank. I get a little freaky when 100miles comes up, flick to reserve and start to look for a top up. Again its a mental thing, but the idea of having to plan a trip based on topping up with some petrol every hour or so.... Mad for being a big girls blouse!
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 27 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Four things i've got for my first big trip are

Sat nav Mobile phone
Map of the area (just in case batteries fail)
AA cover

and finally the week before i'm going to do some trips starting with a full tank and filling up again when I finish. This should give me a good idea of MPG for the long haul.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 27 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting lost is the fun part!! I'm sure I'll be getting very lost in France/Spain so considering taking satnav for emergencies as I dont speak foreign languages!

As for tank mileage on the 7r, the most I've had before switching to reserve is 106 miles, but it's usually 100 miles or thereabouts. Scary feeling sometimes on motorway in the outside lane then look down and see I'm on 100 miles!! Quick dive into the inside lane and switch to reserve!

Considering the tank is so fugging big it doesn't hold much does it? I bought a Bandit 600 a few weeks ago which has a smaller tank from the outside, but held £16 of fuel, I normally only manage squeeze about £12 into the 7r.
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 27 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad I'm not being paranoid about the tank range then. Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 27 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just don't think about it.
I actually learned to ride for the sole purpose of driving to Australia overland :p
I'm well prepared, but I reckon if I truly realised the risks involved I'd be scared witless :p
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 27 Mar 2008    Post subject: Re: Plucking up the courage, how'd you do it? Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:

The idea of being stranded somewhere in the middle of 'no where' and having to seek help or assistance, running out of fuel, and most of all being lost.


We live on a small island. How 'lost' can you get? At the very worst, you keep going in a straight line until you reach the water.

Even in the remotest parts, how far are you gonna have to walk to get help? How long is it really gonna be until someone else drives past?

What's the 'worst case scenario' in your head that causes you to feel this way?
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 27 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

in my case when i set off this july to france, i think the most miles i will have done on my bandit will be about a 200 mile round trip so its going to be a shock to my system but i just want to get out and go somewhere.

the only thing that is giving me courage is the fact my parents are backing me on. going by myself so really bricking it tbh
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PostPosted: 01:09 - 28 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

its not quite france but im planning to get a tent and a stove and heading north on my rxs100 until I get to the top of scotland, my tank has about 110miles range + reserve, I have no breakdown cover and I doubt my phone will work up there, im also going alone.

it might be weird but I kind of want to know what its like to be able to see nothing but hills with night comming in all alone and know im in it atleast till morning!
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 28 Mar 2008    Post subject: Re: Plucking up the courage, how'd you do it? Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:


At the moment my comfort zone falls into a very small radius of maybe 20-30 miles.

The idea of being stranded somewhere in the middle of 'no where' and having to seek help or assistance, running out of fuel, and most of all being lost.

Reading some of the threads on here makes having a bike almost worthwhile for the sense of adventure it can bring, and I want a part of that but at the same time I am freaked out by the thought of it.

What did you do?

Little by little and then longer and longer, or just whole hog and off to Timbucktoo and back first time out?


TOM TOM Rider, mobile telephone, meticulous planning, good equipment, a credit card and breakdown cover should make you feel safe enough.

If you're paranoid about running out of fuel then just tank it up every 70 miles or so.

I reckon just going for it is the best way.
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 28 Mar 2008    Post subject: Re: Plucking up the courage, how'd you do it? Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:

At the moment my comfort zone falls into a very small radius of maybe 20-30 miles.



Man the fuck up. Laughing I go further than that to work every day. Laughing

On a serious note though. 1st time you venture afar take someone with you then you can be scared together. Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 28 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Change your perspective, when i toured spain it was the first time i had ridden abroad, and solo, but i wasent thinking "oh no what if xxx happens", I brought cheap euro breakdown cover and from then on it was this will be great to get away from the craphole that is london.

Look forward to the adventures you will have...
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 28 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

'just do it'

My first foreign trip to France was to Normandy.. not very far.. and I'd made longer trips on rideouts round wales.

my first "proper" tour was with the Hippys and others from here, down to Provence, and it was awesome.. not only was it my first proper trip abroad on the bike, but I ended up leading most of the rides..

just fscking do it Very Happy

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PostPosted: 14:59 - 28 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to the Scottish highlands, there arent that many roads to get lost on, due to all the hills and mountains Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 28 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ram_doom wrote:
Go to the Scottish highlands, there arent that many roads to get lost on, due to all the hills and mountains Laughing


depending where you go and on your tank-range, you MIGHT need to carry a can of fuel with you.

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PostPosted: 15:55 - 28 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very true feef,

I did the northern highlands on my old GS500, about a 100 mile tank range, there was a few times when i had to cruise aorund in top gear on fumes....
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 28 Mar 2008    Post subject: Re: Plucking up the courage, how'd you do it? Reply with quote

gsxrmick wrote:
Whosthedaddy wrote:

At the moment my comfort zone falls into a very small radius of maybe 20-30 miles.



Man the fuck up. Laughing I go further than that to work every day. Laughing

On a serious note though. 1st time you venture afar take someone with you then you can be scared together. Laughing


I did say radius, and not diameter, and its probably a lot further than I realise in all honesty.

The proof will be in the pudding as they say and to add another cliche 'bite the bullet' springs to mind.

When 'venturing' should you have a sense of direction or just follow the road to nowhere?
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 28 Mar 2008    Post subject: Re: Plucking up the courage, how'd you do it? Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:
When 'venturing' should you have a sense of direction or just follow the road to nowhere?


I think i have a pretty good sense of direction.

As long as you know how to read a map and remember to take it with you and dont set target arrival times you'll be ok.
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 28 Mar 2008    Post subject: Re: Plucking up the courage, how'd you do it? Reply with quote

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As long as you know how to read a map and remember to take it with you and dont set target arrival times you'll be ok.



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PostPosted: 18:43 - 28 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

With regards fuel range.. Why not take a small jerry can, run till you hit reserve, then run till it starts to choke and die again. Then you'll have a realistic tank range. The other option is to just check the reserve capacity, and take it as 10miles per litre, which is only 45mpg. Did this when I got the 26l tank for my F650.. Most I've got to so far was about 290miles, had turned to reserve at 270. So long as you do it on roads you know, you'll be fine..

As for trip protection, I'd say; Credit card, breakdown cover, mobile phone, map. None of this pants GPS crap. That's only good for distracting you from the road ahead! and what you gonna do if it breaks? A ripped map can still be read, a crushed GPS is good for nothing!
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 29 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

alone wrote:


None of this pants GPS crap. That's only good for distracting you from the road ahead! and what you gonna do if it breaks? A ripped map can still be read, a crushed GPS is good for nothing!


Have both and just listen to the GPS instructions, if it breaks look at your tank bag map and list of directions you'll make anyway.
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 29 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agrewith Roper, take a GPS and a map. A map and written directions are all very good, but they are a right pain in the arse to read in the dark. Whereas a GPS is back lit and speaks to you (so you don't really need to look at it). Maps are great for route planning and asking strangers for directions though, so there is definately a need for both.
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 29 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You look cooler without a GPS. That's for sure Cool

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PostPosted: 13:28 - 29 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You never look cool when you're lost . Cool
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