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 teampots Spanner Monkey

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 Posted: 21:07 - 18 Feb 2008 Post subject: France 2008 Basic Help Needed |
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Hello to you all, after reading all the brilliant writeups in this section i have devised a plan to go on a tour myself and just wanted to make sure of some basics without getting lost in pages of topics
i know i need :
European Health Insurance Card
European Insurance and Breakdown etc
Panniers
Maps
Camping Gear
But i just want to make sure of other things
such as will i need my passport im mainly going to France etc but may get as far south as italy and with it all being Europe etc
also what about rough camping big no no in france but what about italy
i will be doing this myself so is there anything else major i might need or have missed off the list
any help would be brilliant, im planning but as such nothing has come to fruition  ____________________ Current - Fazer 600
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NOOO!
To tyre weld buy a tyre repair kit the £20 stab through types , they last MUCH longer , and work in the rain and cold .
Bring a spare map , and another spare map,
Bring a compass,
Other things you need to bring:
Cable ties, lots of them , gaffa tape , electrical tape , jubliee clips
you can fix most things with the above. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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i always thought gunking the tyres would be a better idea  ____________________ Current - Fazer 600
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Another vote for a proper plug kit.
I have a plug-kit and compressor on the FJR.
My reasoning is thus
1: tyre-weld, slime or any other gunky stuff will not win friends for you at the tyre changing place
2: tyre-weld, slime or any other gunky stuff might well work okay on large trail bikes (such as used by many of the riders on the ADV-rider forums, since they use innertubes) but CAN cause some unbalancing of tubeless road tyres at higher speeds
3: I like to know when I've had a puncture. I know that I can plug a tyre, maybe twice at most, if both plugs are far enough apart. If your holes are being sealed automatically, how do you know just how many holes are in your tyre? How do you know the underlying carcass hasn't been damaged? At least when I'm down on my hands and knees fitting the plug, you get a good look at thetyre, and can check for any surrounding damage
4: carrying a compressor also wins you friends when someone has a flat tyre, even on a car
5: A compressor and plug kit doesn't take up much more space than a can of tyre-weld, and fits easily under the seat of the Firestorm, or rattles about in a pannier. There's less chance of a compressor and plug kit being punctured or set off accidentally, and doesn't make a mess.
6 : Plugs, while purported to NOT be a permanant fix have, in my experience, provided a good, airtight and safe repair that lasts the lifetime of the tyre. It would still be recommended, however, to replace the tyre at your earliest convenience. That I chose not to is my own decision.
I've had to plug maybe 5 rear tyres on 3 bikes in the last 3 years. Nowadays, a puncture is a minor, 15 minute delay, and not a show/ride-stopper.
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Fair enough, proper plug kit it is then...  ____________________ My Bikes: Piaggio NRG| Aprilia RS 125| Suzuki GSX-R 600|Yamaha Fazer Ducati 848
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Have to disagree. Admittedly using a touring bike but...
| feef wrote: | Another vote for a proper plug kit....My reasoning is thus
1: tyre-weld, slime or any other gunky stuff will not win friends for you at the tyre changing place
| Not in my experience. Depends on the place I suppose and if they're used to bikes or one of the nationals that might do them once in a while.
| feef wrote: | 2: tyre-weld, slime or any other gunky stuff ... CAN cause some unbalancing of tubeless road tyres at higher speeds | Again, not in my experience. Remember that alloy rims are sealed by 'gunky' stuff to stop them leaking.
| feef wrote: | 3: I like to know when I've had a puncture... | Why? Friend had a tyre replaced that had been gunked. Found about 5 holes in it. He hadn't even noticed, didn't affect handling/performance/ridability.
| feef wrote: | 4: carrying a compressor also wins you friends when someone has a flat tyre, even on a car  | An actual compressor can be a bit bulky on a bike. Although you can fit one on something the size of a tourer with there's space under the plastics. The small CO2 cannisters you get with the kits are very very small and once used that's it.
| feef wrote: | 5: A compressor and plug kit doesn't take up much more space than a can of tyre-weld... | Wouldn't use the in a can tyre-weld at all. Far better to get the stuff that's in the tyre from the start. The tyre-weld stuff is indeed bad news.
| feef wrote: | 6 : Plugs, while purported to NOT be a permanant fix have, in my experience, provided a good, airtight and safe repair that lasts the lifetime of the tyre. |
that's what I've heard as well.
So I'd get some proper gunk stuff put in the tyres. If you're really worried get a plug kit and set of CO2 cannisters as well (like BMW provide as standard - see eBay for cheaper versions).
HTH  ____________________ ...and the whirlwind is in the thorn trees, it's hard for thee to kick against the pricks...
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always used ultra seal in my tyres (bandit 1200 and now FJR1300)
put stuff in tyre, inflate and then go for a steady 5-10 mile ride so that it gets the inside coated evenly .
never had a balance problem (in fact it seemed better)
informed tyre fitters before removal and no mess.
i ve had a couple of small nails in tyre whilst away removed it spun tyre around a few times and it sealed fine.
much better than trying to locate and fix it in the pouring rain on a dark unlit road  |
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Can Anyone recommend a decent set of panniers, i will have a top box that i can use as extra storage, but panniers are a bit of a worry as to how much i will need.
looking to take a few changes of clothes nothing amazingly big etc also will need some space for bringing stuff back  ____________________ Current - Fazer 600
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We've just come back from a long weekend in France over Easter, so as far as carrying stuff is concerned my advice would be keep it simple!
I took - clean underwear, 2x clean tshirts, 2x clean warm tops, 1x clean jeans, 1x spare boots, 2x spare gloves, pair of trainers, thermals, waterproofs, 1x spare jacket in the way of clothes. That was enough for 5 days! and fitted easily into my throwover panniers. I also had travel-sized shampoo & shower gel, deodorant, toothbrush & toothpaste, makeup and moisturiser, along with a small first aid kit and a hi-vis waistcoat.
Paperwork wise I was advised to take passport, licence, health card, insurance cert, breakdown card, MOT and V5 and you have to dsplay a GB symbol clearly on the rear of your vehicle.
I also took credit card, money (Euros), phone with google maps installed and a map of Northern France.
Himself had tools in his panniers, various spanners, carb cleaner (can help a reluctant bike to start), a litre of oil and a spare fully charged battery that would fit on either bike.
We didn't take camping gear, partly cos it was too bloody cold to camp and partly because you can find accommodation for a reasonable rate very easily. We could usually find hotels for under 60 Euros for a double room (about £45) or better still look for signs for chambres d'hote, these are the French equivalent of B&B and can be had from as little as 20 euros per night. However saying that there was certainly no shortage of campsites in the Normady/Brittany area that we explored - watch out for the camper vans though they are everywhere!
Incidentally M& P have some offers on luggage this week that you may want to look at.
https://www.mandp.co.uk/productsList.aspx?tier1=Luggage&tier2=Special+Offers
This is our bikes fully loaded.........
https://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a229/Yambabe/France%2008/BILD0337.jpg
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It's in show and tell.......
I was sooo nervous before we went, but once over there and riding we had a fantastic time. Didn't manage the mileage we had originally planned cos of the weather but still loved it and can't wait to get back over there when it's not snowing, sub-zero temp and gale-force winds...........  ____________________ Sod falling in love, I wanna fall in chocolate.  |
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