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PostPosted: 23:01 - 01 Apr 2008    Post subject: new income tax levels... good for everyone? I think not! Reply with quote

Just read on MSN a reminder that the income tax changes announced last year come in to effect next week. So I thought I'd see whether that's a good thing or a bad thing for me.

Found this calculator:
https://img.thisismoney.co.uk/calculators/Income-tax-cruncher.html

And according to it, over the course of the year, I will be about £10 better off. Wow. £10. For a whole year.

But it gets better! I put in my boyfriend's wage, which is less than mine at the moment. And it tells me he is £70 worse off! I know I heard at the time that the new income tax wouldn't help people on lower incomes, but now I see proof. How can you expect things to improve if you increase the tax on the lowest earners? *shakes head*. I just don't get it. Well, one thing I do get is Gordon Brown stinks... Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 01 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because the middle income earners have the loudest voices.
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PostPosted: 23:38 - 01 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

£110 worse off!! sod that! Im only on an apprentice wage to rub it all in aswell Middle Finger Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 00:19 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Case in point.
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PostPosted: 04:21 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thankfully i don't do too bad out of it, but it's a really dirty stunt. I remember it being announced this time lastyear and working it out when I got home how it'd affect incomes, as I was sure the removal of the 10% band would outweigh the 22% to 20% reduction. For me on the salary I had at that time I only just escaped being taxed more.


Ridiculous how he can justify a move to take more money from low earners, I think ultimately it probably doesn't raise much more tax than previously though so I think he was just hoping too many people would think he'd reduced it and not bother working it out, the media do that for you though so he can't hide it.
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PostPosted: 07:00 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG £157.76 worse off

I am on minimum wage atm as well and just making ends meet.
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PostPosted: 07:54 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

£34 better off....wow, what can I spend it all on?

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PostPosted: 10:07 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can beat that - £3.02 better off! Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

It says i am £90.02 better off but it is meaningless...

"This is to be used as a guide only. It is based on earnings only and does not include National Insurance, savings or pension income or any other influences on the amount of tax you will pay such as perks"
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

£200 better off... Get in! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

£83 better off...

But since they'll be grabbing 3, 4 or 50 times that in other tax hikes (booze, fags and petrol etc etc etc) its pretty meaningless.

Why do we allow this to happen? (Rhetorical questing Hetz btw... Cool )

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PostPosted: 11:33 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

£387.62 better off Cool

Hang on the government is giving me money, this cant be right, what stunt are they pulling i wonder!
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

brewer wrote:
£387.62 better off...this cant be right, what stunt are they pulling i wonder!
They want you to remember you're better off when the election comes. Although they do have until 2010 to call one.

Playing with that calculator it turns out that £16,499 is the break even figure. Earn more than that it says you're better off, less than that you loose out.

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PostPosted: 16:27 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

90squid better off Very Happy
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
They want you to remember you're better off when the election comes. Although they do have until 2010 to call one.

Playing with that calculator it turns out that £16,499 is the break even figure. Earn more than that it says you're better off, less than that you loose out.

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Not sure how that website works it out, but it also reckons that if you earn £41434 or more, you will get £788.68 more a year.
£788.68 seems to be the maximum extra savings you can get.

But it's not as simple as just using that.
Child tax credit will be going up along with other things.
Tax on booze / fags will be going up
You will also pay more National Insurance if you earn more than £645 a week (but if you earn that much, you're not exactly scraping around for cash Smile )

So take the savings/losses you make with a pinch of salt.
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over £400 better off. Cool

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PostPosted: 17:23 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

£155 worse off.
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

£50 worse off.

Could be worse... That would normally buy me chinese take out and pay my phone bil for one month, so it's not such a big deal over the space of a year Wink
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

£60 down. No wonder the c*nt wont call an election. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm better off, turns out it pays not to be an unskilled easily replaceable type.

I like Gordon Brown cos he likes me.
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is this tax thing you are all talking about? Confused
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Owdamer wrote:
No wonder the c*nt wont call an election. Evil or Very Mad

I suspect far more people (who would vote) are benefiting than losing out, that aint the reason an election isn't being called.
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaun wrote:
I'm better off, turns out it pays not to be an unskilled easily replaceable type.

I like Gordon Brown cos he likes me.


hey! i can tie my shoelaces up Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

£170 better off apparently.
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like I am losing the most on here, which means I am probably the poorest paid Crying or Very sad
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