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GhostRider
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 01 Apr 2008    Post subject: Trouble at 7k revs in second gear on NSR125 Reply with quote

Afternoon,

Ok, so I've noticed that when firing along if I want to pick up speed I'll get to about 5-6k revs in 1st, then shift up to second.... but when I go into second, as I get up to 7k revs the bike seems to... well, struggle, stutter a tad, if I shift up to third then it disappears and I can go into high revs in all subsequent gears no problem, it just seems that in second it doesnt like being taken that high....whereas I was under the impression that she should be happy to keep goin until the red begins to approach...

Any ideas anybody? Wondering if I might be doing my engine no favours..??

Thanks in advance,

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PostPosted: 13:51 - 01 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the bike judder in second?
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 01 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Timmeh wrote:
Does the bike judder in second?


No I wouldnt say so, its fine up until the revs hit the 7k mark and struggles at this point...perhaps there is a slight judder when I get to 7k but at this stage I;d normally crank up the gears to 3rd......

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PostPosted: 08:26 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it only judders upto from around 7k i would say its either a fueling problem (sounds unlikely since you say its ok in other gears) or the powervalve possibly? Does the powervalve move and whats the top speed at the min?
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

GhostRider wrote:
the revs hit the 7k mark and struggles at this point...perhaps there is a slight judder when I get to 7k but at this stage I;d normally crank up the gears to 3rd......

GhostRider


Hi
Will it reach 7000 rpm in neutral?
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had this problem on my rs125 for a little while, it might be that your cracking open the throttle to much in the lower gears (opening the throttle right up) try just using half of the throttle, i had the exact same problem and mine was fine in higher gears aswell i found out me opening up the throttle to quickly was flooding it some-how Confused

Hope this helps you.

P.S. no it wasnt the enviromental dip that i was having because mine was between 7-8k revs and i dont have a power-valve as there is a blanking space because its new and restricted Razz just thaught id say incase people say.

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PostPosted: 14:41 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

does it do that after 10 min warming ?
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok for some reason it doesnt appear to be doing it anymore......at least not the last few times I've been on it...though I'll be keeping an eye on it.

For future reference though, yes it will rev to 7k in neutral no probs.

Im not sure how to check the powervalve, top speed I've got so far is 60mph, though it does seem to take its time getting up there, but then again not many roads long enough around the routes I drive to warrant doing that speed or going any faster...

And yes it appeared to do it after the bike was more than adequately warmed up.

As I say problem seems to have disappeared for now but will keep a close check on it.

Thanks for the responses guys,

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PostPosted: 20:34 - 02 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

you must do at least inspection of all connections on CDI,RC/unit,servo-motor , oyde is your enemy
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PostPosted: 08:29 - 03 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

A top speed of 60/70 sounds like your powervalve is not working. Does the bike make a noise when your key is turned, like a wooring noise for about a 1 second?

If you sit on the bike and look under the right side of your petrol tank you will see a small round silver object sitting on a plate with two small cables coming off. This should spin depending on what rev's the bike is at (in neutral or in gear) and there is a little pointer on it that points to hi or lo. If this doesnt move get the serial number from inbetween your yokes (just below the handle bars) and give it to alains. Your bike could be restricted so the power valve can not work.
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 07 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A top speed of 60/70 sounds like your powervalve is not working. Does the bike make a noise when your key is turned, like a wooring noise for about a 1 second?

If you sit on the bike and look under the right side of your petrol tank you will see a small round silver object sitting on a plate with two small cables coming off. This should spin depending on what rev's the bike is at (in neutral or in gear) and there is a little pointer on it that points to hi or lo. If this doesnt move get the serial number from inbetween your yokes (just below the handle bars) and give it to alains. Your bike could be restricted so the power valve can not work.


From my inspections, the powervalve makes a sound and moves when key is turned. At startup when idling it sits in the "Hi" position, when I rev to about 3000k it switches to zero, im unable to see how it turns above that point really since the noise isnt appreciated by my neighbours.

When I had it serviced the guy removed what I believe is the Carb inlet plate restrictor (square piece of metal with a hole in the middle) this helped my acceleration but didnt change anything regarding the3 top speed.

I've looked over the bike and cant see any loose connections to anything but my mechanical knowledge is very limited so I could easily be missing something I suppose, but theres nothing obvious suffice to say.

In the back of my mind im thinking its probably due to the engine requiring a top end rebuild which im aware with my mileage is recommended but I simply cant afford it for the time being.

Any other ideas as to what could be affecting my top speed?

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PostPosted: 19:17 - 07 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

your valves are ok , they will go to HI over 7500
prior having top-end re-build go to your mechanic and have your compression tested something lower than 100 psi is not very good
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