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PostPosted: 21:25 - 03 Apr 2008    Post subject: Wheres that Spill counter? :P Reply with quote

Ok, today was my first, and hopefully last/only spill of the year.
100% not my fault.

The worst part about it is I had my girlfriend on the back! Evil or Very Mad

Was on a roundabout, inside lane (designed for going straight on), and an Indian driver (need I say any more) in a pug 106 was trying to 360 the roundabout in the outside lane. Completely cut me up and before I had chance to stop, Clipped the arse end of her car.

I tried to swerve, but had the roundabout to my right, And of course, her 106 to my left.

I was expecting her to take the exit I was going to take, And we would exit side by side. (she wasn't indicating so i assumed she was going straight on, like myself)


Meh, It wasn't really a crash as such, More of a bump, then I dropped the bike due to the throw/weight. Plus the OH on the back didn't really help.

Anyway, Damage, Ive got 1 scratched fairing. A broken screen, Scratched engine cover, bent gear selector and a scratched bar end/clutch lever.

Shes got a nice dent in the rear quarter of her car from my fairing!
(which didn't even crack)

She accepted full liability at the scene in front of myself, my girlfriend, AND a mate of mine who happened to be waiting to enter the Roundabout in his BMW and saw it all.


She said her mate is a sprayer and can sort it all out outside of insurance. Ive told her to get it quoted and sorted quick then because I will be reporting it within 48 hours.

So hopefully it will be simple, He will spray my bike back up. And she will pay him. Then cover the cost of a new screen, set of bar ends and gear selector.

I'm not too fussed about the engine cover, it will sand down/spray up again.
I'm gonna have a word with the sprayer though, and see if he can spray the tail piece on the bike for me. It dint get damaged in the accident, but it was already scuffed from before, and badly re-sprayed by myself.

If he can sort that out too at her expense. I don't mind sorting out the little bits and pieces on the bike as it means Ill have a full respray as such.


Oh, and Thank GOD the tank didn't touch down! It took some serious hunting to get a mint tank with no dents. Then get it sprayed up pro by an Audi Sprayer.

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PostPosted: 21:31 - 03 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hold on, if going straight on ain't you supposed to use the outside of the roundabout?
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 03 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks like two lanes, can use both as he said they could have exited side-by-side.

luckily both of you are alright.. bikes can be fixed!
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 03 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arnt you claiming at all on her insurance and getin her done? it could of been worse, and i cant beleive you didnt mention anything about your OH's injuries... sounds like its all about the bike...
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 03 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

lonewolf. None of us are injured. I meerly dropped the bike on its side. And we both fell away from it.

We wasn't even going more than about 15mph as the bike was cutting out at anything over 3k rpm.

And look at the state of the insurance claim from september 2007 when the R6 ran up the back of me! Its STILL on going! And I still havnt been paid out for it.

Id rather have a quick fix on the bike and just let it go.


Of course the first thing I did was make sure my girlfriend was okay! She says she is. The woman who crashed into me was a Nurse too.

And yes, Its like a dual lane roundabout. Can exit side by side, Then it merges into one after about 10 meters of the exit.
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 03 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

That must be pretty gutting having only just got the bike done up nicely.

Hope it's all sorted without fuss.
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 04 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Precisely why I use the other lane for going straight on

Glad you're both ok anyway

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PostPosted: 00:09 - 04 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reppyboyo wrote:
Hold on, if going straight on ain't you supposed to use the outside of the roundabout?


Depends on how the area is marked, it always used to be like that but councils mark lanes all different nowadays and nobody knows the best lane to be in.
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PostPosted: 00:27 - 04 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well its being dealt without outside of insurance anyway.

Ive got so many spare parts knocking around in my garage anyway. I can sort everything out for nothing. Just an hours work in the garage.

The only thing I cant do is the paint obviously.

The tail end is fucked, its been shitty from day one. But ive got a new tail piece in my garage. If she is willing to pay for the spray work doing, And the tail unit can be sprayed up too. Then I will say dont worry about the screen, bar ends, Levers etc.

But if she wants to be funny and say "I will only pay for the fairing that is scratched to be sorted out." Then I will run up a nice list of what needs replacing.

Lever = CRG £39 (each)
Bar end = Oxford - £20
Screen = Demon Tweaks - £49
Gear lever = Honda - £52 (Yes 52 fucking quid!)

In all fairness the lever is only ever so slightly chipped on the end. So Ill just dab a bit of silver paint on it. Bar ends, I wanted them changed anyway, I'm getting Harris ones to go with my Renthal Grips when I get them.
Screen was shitty anyway, I bought it off a racer, Its got holes drilled in it for a an extra bubble for the track riders.
gear lever was nut/bolted anyway. So Ill just pop another nut/bolt through it. Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:58 - 04 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doh! Which roundabout was this? Hempstead by any chance?

It's crazy the amount of drivers who stay in the outside lane of the roundabout to turn right!! Shocked

Hope the bike gets sorted.
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 04 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must have been a scare for the OH though. I nearly had something like taht when some stupid woman was racing her family van and emergency braked onto the roundabout and was facing the roundabout. My front wheel touched the side of her door. And she went on about claiming of my insurance about being an irreposible biker! I just pulled out of tesco to the roundabout and she was coming from my left. I was doing about 10mph.

Absolute shitter that it happened after all the work you did. If that happened to me I would've ram the bike really hard into her car, if there was no one else on the bike. Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 04 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

One in walderslade.


Anyway, Quick update. Got the bike running great finally! Very Happy

Turns out it was a faulty side stand switch. Simply bypassed it, and ive got a guaranteed redline every time! Very Happy


Bike getting looked at tomorrow for paint work doing, And all I need now is a screen.



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PostPosted: 13:44 - 04 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

someone did exactly the same to me but i was in my car, thankfully the smart bounced off her corsa which was left nicely dented with no wing mirror.
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 04 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear about your prang. My local cross-roads type roundabout has similar problems, with a two-lane feed into a single lane exit straight ahead. Many drivers go straight ahead using the inside lane, and they know they are doing a dodgy move, because they really gun it to get ahead of me. I have never seen an accident, though..
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 04 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, cos that'll go down a treat. It's not about growing balls it's about getting the best from a shitty situation that he wouldn't be in if it wasn't for her. Rolling Eyes

Don't blame ya Binge, fact I'd do the same. Hope she goes along with it and you finally get that tail sorted. Oh, and at least you two are ok if not shook up a tad.
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 04 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

He is getting the best of the situation as he see's fit.

He hasn't got a problem with it so why you?
I have in the past, actually, to answer your question. I was then too making the best of a shit situation.

Dont get me wrong, I see where your coming from and to a point agree. BUT, he's doing this how he is and if binge is happy all's good.
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PostPosted: 02:23 - 05 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know you think your riding style was not a factor in any of your accidents, but maybe, just maybe if you relaxed a bit and watched what was happening around you a bit, any accidents you have in future will just be minor.

It is sort of funny how cautious people who ride slower dont get in accidents or if they do, its not that serious. I wonder why that might be...
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PostPosted: 03:02 - 05 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, u just asked why you couldnt have minor accident instead of serious ones, and i explained how

not being nasty about it, just saying thats all

just because you dont like it and live in denial, that your riding style is unconnected to your accidents, doesnt mean you have to be rude about it
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PostPosted: 03:33 - 05 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

your right that I dont know the full details of your last crash, but i do know it was on a bend

im not saying im prefect, i might have made the same mistake

not that it matters, but my hair isnt long at the moment.

In this thread, you just said you wish your accidents could be minor instead of serious one, and all i did was point out something that you just admitted. You know you ride like a twat and its your choice to do that, and you know it makes you more likely to have accidents which are serious. Whether the last accident was down to you or not.

I dont see why you have to get all shirty about it.

Thats what Im arguing about.

If you are gonna call me a boring prick, im just gonna call you a stupid twat who's gonna get himself killed one day, so why do it ?

If i say that its just cos Im not gonna stand for u saying saying im a boring prick without saying something back.

If you dont like it, dont start an argument in the first place, when all i said is what you know anyway and just admitted.

Calling me a prick or a cunt doesnt change anything. If you wish you had accidents that were more minor than serious, you could just change your behaviour. Its not fate, you arent just unlucky.
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PostPosted: 03:43 - 05 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes ok its not question. You say you wish you could have minor accidents instead of serious ones.

All i said was its your choice that you are more likely to have serious ones because of the way you ride.

You know this, so why all the attiude ?
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PostPosted: 04:00 - 05 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didnt start an argument, i just said that if you wanted to have minor accidents instead of serious ones you could just ride more cautiously.

I dont think thats very controversial, so i didnt expect you to argue about that.

I agree that it is a funny thing that some people can come off at 100mph without a scratch, while others can have a comparatively low speed accident and get serious injuries.

It comes down to traffic.

Its not going fast thats the problem, its the stopping suddenly thats the problem. If there is nothing there to stop you suddenly, there are no problems.

Of course that doesnt have to be just due to traffic, as you can hit something solid and unmoving like a tree.

Two people I knew hit a tree at legal speeds. One was in a car, one was on a bike. Both made a silly mistake, but on a bike its not just an insurance claim for a new car you need to worry about.
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