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alun111
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 11 Apr 2008    Post subject: bike stand options Reply with quote

I need some way of lifting the bike off the floor for when i'm oiling/cleaning the chain, checking the engine oil level, checking bearings, changing tyres, servicing forks (including removing them) etc etc.

The bike is in my sig.

I was thinking about getting two paddock stand but I'd be looking at 90 for a swingarm one and a front yoke one. I then looked at centrestands but they seem to only make them from 02 onwards (sw motech). I then thought about a scissor lift thing but I don't think there'd be anywhere to actually jack it up from (the zorsts are in the way).

So has anyone got any ideas?
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 11 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abba stand all the way.
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 11 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abba Stand as joe says or 2 paddock stands. You don't need a head stock stand unless you want to get the forks out, so you could just get a normal one for around £30.

Then if you need to get the forks out use a trolly jack under the headers and jack it up, or run straps down from the beams in your roof around the headstock. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 11 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

pretty much all you'll need is a rear one for day to day or week to week. And ones to fit the Hornet are about the cheapest type on the market... Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 11 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
Abba Stand as joe says or 2 paddock stands. You don't need a head stock stand unless you want to get the forks out, so you could just get a normal one for around £30.

Then if you need to get the forks out use a trolly jack under the headers and jack it up, or run straps down from the beams in your roof around the headstock. Thumbs Up


When you say under the headers do you mean where they run underneath the sump (where they are horizonal)? Can this not damage them? bend them? As you're lifting the whole bike by them.

What would I put ontop of the trolley jack between the headers? A piece 2x1 or something?

If i was going to do this could I not just to away with the stands and do this to lift the WHOLE bike instead? can you use a bike lift on the headers? (as this is basically the same as a trolley jack).

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PostPosted: 19:41 - 11 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will struggle to lift both wheels off the floor safely with a trolley jack. I use an excessively large trolley jack for my CBR (long-term long jobby hence why its so big ... 3 tonne.. only really need a 1 tonne tho Wink ) Use a rear paddock stand for general jobs, and if you want to take the front off, jack under the headers, 2x1 across the jack and headers and lift the front up.... it should only lift the front end, not the rear.. it will be far too unstable to lift both wheels off the floor.

By the way you shouldnt lift the bike on stand(S) to check the oil level...
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 11 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sparks! wrote:
You will struggle to lift both wheels off the floor safely with a trolley jack. I use an excessively large trolley jack for my CBR (long-term long jobby hence why its so big ... 3 tonne.. only really need a 1 tonne tho Wink ) Use a rear paddock stand for general jobs, and if you want to take the front off, jack under the headers, 2x1 across the jack and headers and lift the front up.... it should only lift the front end, not the rear.. it will be far too unstable to lift both wheels off the floor.



Yeah, that's what I meant. Keep it on the rear sand, jack under the headers to lift the front, sorry if it was vague.
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 11 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok. Can I check the front wheel/headstock bearings without a front paddock stand?

What's the most conveniant way to check the oil on a hornet? it has no sight glass only a dipstick.

Cheers everyone, you're being most helpful! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 11 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

alun111 wrote:
ok. Can I check the front wheel/headstock bearings without a front paddock stand?

What's the most conveniant way to check the oil on a hornet? it has no sight glass only a dipstick.



Yes if you have a mate.

Get someone to hold the bike upright and do the oil dipstick check. If you're super good unscrew it with the bike on the stand, take it out then hold the bike upright with one hand and check the oil with the other. Wink

To check you're wheel bearings get your bike to put the bike over onto the sidestand so the fork wheel is off the ground then check as normal.
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 11 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
alun111 wrote:
ok. Can I check the front wheel/headstock bearings without a front paddock stand?

What's the most conveniant way to check the oil on a hornet? it has no sight glass only a dipstick.



Yes if you have a mate.

Get someone to hold the bike upright and do the oil dipstick check. If you're super good unscrew it with the bike on the stand, take it out then hold the bike upright with one hand and check the oil with the other. Wink

To check you're wheel bearings get your bike to put the bike over onto the sidestand so the fork wheel is off the ground then check as normal.


Yer I've been doing it myself that way.

and I didn't actually think of the side stand trick! Cheers.

So, I think I'm almost set then. So a rear paddock stand would do the job for chain maintenance.... and a jack under the headers would take care of the whole front end.

So for the last question is there a particular rear paddock stand I should go for? Or just an universal one with plates? Obviously I'd need to know it's going to work with the hornet!

Thanks again mate! Much appreciated.
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 11 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

alun111 wrote:

So for the last question is there a particular rear paddock stand I should go for? Or just an universal one with plates? Obviously I'd need to know it's going to work with the hornet!

Thanks again mate! Much appreciated.


Yep, just get a universal one with the cups/plates.

You can fit bobbins to the hornet arm if you really want to, but you have to drill it. I prefer the cup type paddock stands anyway. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 11 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
alun111 wrote:

So for the last question is there a particular rear paddock stand I should go for? Or just an universal one with plates? Obviously I'd need to know it's going to work with the hornet!

Thanks again mate! Much appreciated.


Yep, just get a universal one with the cups/plates.

You can fit bobbins to the hornet arm if you really want to, but you have to drill it. I prefer the cup type paddock stands anyway. Thumbs Up


Any idea of the width the plates would need to be apart? Would are the benefits of hooks and bobbins anyway?
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 11 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would this do the trick?
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 11 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

alun111 wrote:
Would this do the trick?


That would be fine.

With hooks/bobbins you stand less chance of scratching your swingarm. Be aware that if you crash with bobbins they can rip themselves out of your swingarm so you'll need to re-drill it.

I don't know the exact distance the plates would need to be apart, but the universal ones are plenty big enough.
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 11 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats the exact one that I bought for my Hornet last month, works fine.
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PostPosted: 07:39 - 12 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks neilpostance, and thanks especially to big_ham, I really do appreciate all the help you've given me!
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PostPosted: 07:45 - 12 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

God bike stands are cheap in the UK.

One similar to the cheap one posted would cost 50-60 bucks here.
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PostPosted: 08:34 - 12 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

a friend bought one of those paddock stands from ebay............not long after his purchase, my services were called upon to weld it back together...................buy a good heavy duty stand, in life there are certain things you can skimp on.....................this is not one of them, if you value you bike.
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PostPosted: 08:40 - 12 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey McGee I can send you this lift for £15 including shipping. You can either have the red and white one or the blue one, let me know.
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PostPosted: 08:46 - 12 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

base wrote:
a friend bought one of those paddock stands from ebay............not long after his purchase, my services were called upon to weld it back together...................buy a good heavy duty stand, in life there are certain things you can skimp on.....................this is not one of them, if you value you bike.


could you give me a link to a better one?

cheers
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 12 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me and my friend just spent £50 on a front and rear from Demon Tweeks and they fit fine. They are the biketek ones and I've used them twice on the Hornet. The rear on is easy to use on your own and it fits perfectly. With the front I would have someone else to help but that's me being cautious. Smile

You should be able to check wheel bearings with the stands. I'll be taking off my wheels to replace the brake pads and check on the bearings soon.

I do remember G saying that with a little bit of welding they are much better Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 12 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

personally i have a micron paddock stand, however if i was going to buy again i would pay the extra and buy a abba stand as already recommened, it will last a long time...........https://www.abbastands.co.uk/
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 12 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would recommend the Micron front and rear stands. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 12 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a bikeIt rear stand, and just ordered a bikeit front too.

And it's fine Alun, all part of the service. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 12 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, I'm all sorted.

Bought a set of micron paddock stands off ebay from M & P for £56.94 all in. They're one piece so no welds.

BARGAIN.

Here's a link for anyone who's after some. Also, thanks for the reccomendations!
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