Fazer 600 and TT600.

[Irezumi aka Reuben]

After some info on these bikes. Not able to find a great deal about what in particular goes wrong on them, if anything. I'm aware of the fuel mapping on the TT, apart from that and obvious bearings/signs of wear and tear etc what should I look out/listen for?

Thanks for any help.

[neatbik]

Other than the fuel mapping on early tt's i dont think there is anything in particular to go wrong, just check for any oil leaks, crash damage etc etc.
On a side note ive got an '06 speed 4 using a detuned tt600 lump and the fueling is faultess

[MarJay]

The main thing to check is that the recalls have been done on the TT. The original bikes had plastic fuel connectors on the tank which shatter very easily. The recall replaces them with alloy ones.
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[andi]

Fazers are fairly solid if not the most exciting bike out there. The headlights on the MKI are quite poor
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The brakes on the TT600 are fucking epic

I want one.
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[neatbik]

The suspension aint bad either
The tt is more of a 'sport bike', as in the top notch suspension is fully adjustable, its got clip on bars etc etc. It is quite comfy though, and not as 'head down, arse up' as a gsxr, r6, etc etc.

[Rhino.]

the fazer is/was a top bike
the tt was rated as average at the time,not quite a sports bike, so they made a naked one which never quite hit the mark either both were discontinued, and imo the ugliest bikes ever built...apart from the gsxf 600/750 now they were hilarious looking
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[neatbik]

The initial tt's had really bad fueling problems, but that was pretty much cured after a while with updated fuelling maps.
I test rode literally loads of bikes before i chose my speed 4 (fazer included) and to me it seemed to handle, brake and sound the best. My only slight failing with the bike is that the engine is quite linear and soulless, but then it is a 600cc il4.
The fazer is a good bike, its certainly not a bad choice, but for my money the tt/speed 4 just pips it

[MarJay]

[colin1]

the reason the tt600 is a good buy, is that although it didnt outshine sportsbikes of its year, its now a lot cheaper while they have held their value.

This means if you buy a tt600, you are getting a lot of bike for your money. Its still a sportsbike quality frame, brakes and suspension.

Naked bikes tend to be made to a budget, and have lower spec frame brakes and suspension. The exception being the speed four which is basically a tt600 with a detuned engine.

The main thing to think about though is that the fazer and tt600 are designed to do different things, so its not about which bike is best, its about which bike suites your needs best.

I liked the VFR750, the thundercat and the 98r1 better than the tt600, but the tt600 was better for me as it suited the type of riding i was going to do with a bike better.

The tt600 is good on fastish country roads and because its a bit skittish its a more involving ride.

The fazer is going to be better for commuting and maybe touring.
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[Irezumi aka Reuben]

I'm just after an every day 600 which is at least half faired and has a reasonable tank range (no Hornets). Not too fussed as to what it is but these two bikes seem to fit the bill and are relatively cheap and readily available. I've ridden enough bikes to know that both of the suggested will be more than capable for my needs and I'm not an incompetent rider so can handle the lack of torque for town riding.

If you could pass on any more info on the TT I'd be grateful Marjay.

[kitty kat]

I can honestly say that the Fazer is a damn good all round 600. I have ridden over 30000 miles on my MK1 in 18 months and it has never let me down once. It has the acceleration when you want it, but is quite happy plodding around town as well. As has been said the MK1 headlights are pretty shit, but they have been improved on later models. The downside for the later models (according to others) is that the engine has been changed from the Thundercat engine to a de-tuned R6 engine.
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[colin1]

dont mind marjay he means well but sometimes his speculation is a little wide of the mark
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[St0rmer66]

[MarJay]

[colin1]

not a vendetta u were just mistaken that he had not ever ridden a fazer, when it turns out that he had

its good that u are man enough to admit when u are wrong

oh, u didnt, well im sure it just slipped your mind and u had intended to

its interesting to here how similar the daytona 600 is to the tt600 as someone asked me recently and i didnt really know

i think its a different ecu and obviously fairings and lights, but i wasnt sure about anything else
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[Steve H]

Coming in at the arse end of this thread but as a TT600 owner (of four years) I thought I'd venture an opinion...

Looks are a matter of opinion, so it's not worth commenting on really. As Reuben's got to the stage of considering a TT then it's probably fair to assume that he doesn't particularly mind the TT's asthetic's (and loveable underpant headlight ).

Personally I reckon that to comment on the Bike you've gotta ride it, the glitchy fuel injection that was initially reported by all and sundry and subsequently was responsible for more scare stories than the Blair Witch Project is easily remedied by the correct fuel map - once that's done you've got a helluva bike for your money. Brakes, suspension and handling that at the time of release were heralded as some of the best in its' class (its' class being the Sports 600's bracket). In road test after road test it held its' own in those particular fields - let's remember that this was Triumph's first foray into this area and they were competing with Jap manufacturers with years more experience. It's comfy, practical and it doesn't hang around when you're looking to up the pace.

Is it a good bike? Of course it is. It ain't the trendiest of machine's, in fact if you're striving for street credibility (and normality) then get a run of the mill, ten a penny Japanese Bike - it won't miss a beat but then again nor will the TT (mine certainly hasn't in its' four years).

What you get is a British Bike that's unique in a way that a Japanese Machine never will be
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[Irezumi aka Reuben]

Thanks for the review Steve, always a pleasure to read whatever your electronic fountain pen lays down, however I already bought a ZX6R for a bargain price.

[Steve H]