Building my own bike

[Proview]

Hi i fancy building my own bike from scratch ( i have a good idea how to give a strong weld )
But what i was wondering right i want to build a 600cc off roader but i also want to be able to go down the morotrway


Heres the question

If i built the bike from scratch it has no paper work so is it possible to build a bike from scratch and get number plates and insurace and be road legal ? ? ?
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[iooi]

Yep.

But it wont be cheap to get it passed the test to be road legal and ins will be a interesting experience to get sorted.

I think more of your issues will be design based as you need to work out the geometry etc of the frame.
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[Proview]

Realy you can actualy do it ? ? ? wow i am serously thinking about it now i cant wait its going to be a 600 KTM look a like but much lighter and noiser
what about insurance ? ? under the list of bikes what would i put or would i have to ring them
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[stinkwheel]

It would have to pass the Motorcycle Single Vehicle Approval test.

Surprisingly, I think the test is only about £45. You'd be as well to buy a copy of the MSVA manual though as there are lots of pitfalls (the principal one being convincing the tester your welds are good).

Then there is the OTHER way.

ie. Retain the part of the frame from the donor bike that has the chassis number on it (usually the headstock, which is worth keeping anyway). Build your creation then take it for an MOT. Swear black is white that it's been like that for years and that the radical frame alteration pre-dates the MSVA legislation.

This only works if you have the frame and chassis numbers that match a registration document and an MOT tester who "knows the score."

you'd need to get a specialist insurance company to do you an individual quote based on the spec of the bike. Someone like Footman James. Insurance on heavily modified/custom bikes CAN be surprisingly cheap.
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[mad4it028]

lighter than the ktm??????
what engine would you use?
i hope your good at alloy welding as steels is heavey or better still good with carbon fiber hmmmmmm
good luck but i predict either a dreamer or a frankinchop
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[petemell]

Building a frame would be a challenge, this is the one item I would prefer to let a specialist undertake, most of the other parts could be sourced from other models of bike.

[MarJay]

I'd love to build my own bike! I think to start off I'd probably build some kind of Supermono or big two stroke. Either way it would be a tiny chassis with a lightweight single (or twin perhaps if its a 2t) engine. It would also be a Steel trellis frame (I can't be doing with that ally alloy nonsense).

Unfortunately my TIG welding skills aren't up to scratch, and don't have all of the equipment to cut and measure a trellis frame accurately. Still, its a nice goal for the future!
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[Robby]

I'm doing this at the moment, but building a car.

My recommendation is to build the thing first, then try to get it through the SVa, unless they've replaced it with something else by the time you're ready.

It takes a long time to design and build a one off vehicle.

Even longer if you inadvertantly leave the valve open on your argon cylinder and have to wait a few days for a refill to turn up....

[Kal]

[MarJay]

[Big Pete]

you dont need tig to build a frame, the MSVA is currently IIRC £75, the usual fails seem to be on lights and sharp edges. pretty much all the info and expertise you need is on here:

https://www.britchopper.co.uk/forum/index.php

or

www.chopperbuilder.co.uk

including MSVA stuff. Also there has been a lot of stuff in Back Street Heroes and 100% Biker recently on the practical aspects. Obviously its aimed at chops, but the techniques are the same.
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