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PostPosted: 17:41 - 02 May 2008    Post subject: I need to be a instant expert, help please (drug related) Reply with quote

Cannabis to be precise.

i.e. how much would you expect to get for £10 £20 £30 £100 that kind of thing.

Also whats the difference between skunk hash and plain old weed?

Never really smoked much myself so i dont really know much apart from how much £20 worth looks like Laughing

For reasons that i wont go in to its likely that im going to need to know more than i do so anything helpful will be Karma'd accordingly

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PostPosted: 17:52 - 02 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

BBC3 and the programme 'should I smoke dope' were in Hamsterjam.

They were selling 1g of 'stuff' for 6.50 Euro's.

The difference between the drugs is one that I have no idea about whatsoever.

Grass
Thai € 4 per gram
Skunk € 5 per gram
Super Skink € 7.50 per gram
Northern Lights € 7 per gram
White Widow € 7 per gram
AK47 € 7-8 per gram
Silver Haze € 7-8 per gram.


Hash
Moroccan € 5.00
Ice Hash € 15 - 25 a gram
Nepalese € 10.00 a gram
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 02 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confused that just added to my over all confusion Laughing

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PostPosted: 18:08 - 02 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skunk......... Bout 20 quid for what they call an eighth of an ounce here, a full ounce can be anywhere between 120-160 roughly depending on quality.

Think of it as a cash and carry, the more you buy in one go the better the deal.

Hash can be bought round here for varying prices, the sellers call it hash, but most people call it sputnik round here, it is crap quality and is much cheaper. A n ounce of sputnik can be had for about 60 pounds here and will last longer than weed.

Sputnik will usually have bits of plastic in it and various bits of crap.

The difference in highs between the two I find are enormous. Skunk hits me like a punch in the face, depending on the different strains (which is not as important in stockport as amsterdam for obvious reasons) skunk usually gives me a strong feeling of relaxation and makes my brain tick over thinking about things, it can take you so far into your own world you dont even hear people speaking until a minute or two after they have spoken then you forget what they said whilst trying to answer. It is a very heavy feeling, more of a realy good low than a high. It also is great for getting to sleep.

Sputnik, is like a watered down version, it tastes crap and gives you a bit of a high but no where near as much as skunk unless you use silly amounts, I find you can still function and do day to day tasks on sputnik, but really its just a poor mans skunk, I call it council estate weed.

Hope this helps and makes a bit of sense.
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 02 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skunk is just a general, badly used buzzword for good quality grass. In the UK you aren't going to have to worry about picking what strain you want, you take what's on offer.

Any hash you get over here probably wont be proper hash at all, it will be either 'soapbar' or 'pollen' which is made from low quality bud that has been mixed with nasty stuff to make it a brown lump (coffee, beeswax, plastic etc). Real, quality hash will be stronger than the best bud and can be very expensive, it's made from the pure trichromes of the plant with nothing added to it.
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 02 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

The lad didnt want confusing any further Sond Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 02 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoND wrote:
Skunk is just a general, badly used buzzword for good quality grass.


I use the term skunk loosely so I can see where you are coming from but its not just quality grass, skunk is a strain in itself.
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PostPosted: 19:04 - 02 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers guv just about got it sorted with that Laughing

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PostPosted: 22:03 - 02 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, I want some weed.

I miss the days of having 3-4 dealers on my mobile all good friends.

Just ring up ask and pick up Laughing

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Never forget my mate stealing a load of his brother and he was like this skunks called bubblegum.

He swore down it tasted like spearmint, he didn't take into account he was chewing gum Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:25 - 03 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Layman's

Green/weed/skunk = Interchangeable names
20-25 quid for an 8th (3.5g, although often sold as 2.8's at present)
Should have a very strong 'herby' smell
More potent. More of a pain in the arse to use (have to grind it and remove twigs etc). Knocks most people on their arse if they're new so go easy

Hash/Block/Solid
Cheaper stuff, easier to use. Just flick a lighter flame across the block a few times, then crumble between thumb and forefinger. Little bits at a time.
10 quid an 8th

As said, price goes down with bulk. Or it should do, ive had dealers try it on. Morons. Don't expect a massive drop, 25 an 8th would be maybe 45/40 a quart.
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PostPosted: 00:41 - 03 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

goldie looking chain wrote:
most soapbar comes from fucking holland. They make it out of oil and tyres and pollen. Diesel, mirrorbar and flatpress too, these are types of soapbar available to you. Those little bits of plastic you find inside, you can use those as a quality guide to the standard of soapbar that you are smoking. The more bits of plastic means the better the toking


The bud is the strongest part of the plant, but if you smoke enough leaf you can get pretty stoned too. It will either be a natural, grown in the garden plant, which is more leafy, not as strong but tastes nicer and gives you a nice mild high, or grown under lights with hydroponic sets (what the tabloids call skunk). This is much stronger and the kind of stuff you can usually buy.

Hash will either be soapbar/dogshit/any of a raft of other names, which will have all sorts of shit added to it, or purer, softer stuff. A sign of good hash is that you don't need to "char" it (partially burn it with a lighter) as it will be either crumbly or malleable to the extent that you can pull bits off and roll them in to thin "sausages"
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PostPosted: 08:42 - 03 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaloopa wrote:
most soapbar comes from fucking holland. They make it out of oil and tyres and pollen. Diesel, mirrorbar and flatpress too, these are types of soapbar available to you. Those little bits of plastic you find inside, you can use those as a quality guide to the standard of soapbar that you are smoking. The more bits of plastic means the better the toking


That song cracks me up.


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or grown under lights with hydroponic sets (what the tabloids call skunk).


I have always been led to believe that skunk is a strain of its own, but people do use the term loosely.
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 03 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember many years back getting some really nice 'Squidgy black' at very reasonable prices. It had a gold sikh symbol on the larger slabs. What would that have been? Tasted fantastic, smelt wonderful, you could roll it or just hold a flame to it for a fraction of a second and it would fluff up as opposed to crumble. Great high too.
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 03 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I remember many years back getting some really nice 'Squidgy black' at very reasonable prices. It had a gold sikh symbol on the larger slabs. What would that have been? Tasted fantastic, smelt wonderful, you could roll it or just hold a flame to it for a fraction of a second and it would fluff up as opposed to crumble. Great high too.


That would have been "Paki-Black" or Afghani. A lot of it was sold via the CIA to fund the Mujarhadeen and Taliban fight the CCCP in Kabul.
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 03 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skunk; its green, the name is because of how much it smells, good stuff will get you very very stoned. Wink Normal prices for skunk are below.
Hash; anything in this country is likely to be crap quality, but good stuff will be much stronger than any skunk.
Weed; chances are it's the leafy parts of the plant rather than the flowers. Will still get you slightly stoned, but not really. would expect it to be a lot cheaper than the prices below.

£10 1/16th oz (1.75g) but it's likely to be 1.3-1.5g
£20-25 1/8th oz (3.5g) but it's likely to be 2.8-3.0g
£140-160 1oz (28g) should be 28g
£500-600 1/2 bar (4.5oz 126g) should be 126g
£1000-1100 bar (9oz 252g) should be 252g

Depends where you go. Good dealers it'll weigh what it's meant to, less good dealers it either won't weight right or it'll weigh right but not properly cos it's got lots of stalks in it, or seeds, or something had been added to it to increase the weight (sand, glass, lead, to name a few).

What do you need to know specifically?
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1930 Ariel wrote:
EDBANGER wrote:
I remember many years back getting some really nice 'Squidgy black' at very reasonable prices. It had a gold sikh symbol on the larger slabs. What would that have been? Tasted fantastic, smelt wonderful, you could roll it or just hold a flame to it for a fraction of a second and it would fluff up as opposed to crumble. Great high too.


That would have been "Paki-Black" or Afghani. A lot of it was sold via the CIA to fund the Mujarhadeen and Taliban fight the CCCP in Kabul.


I saw you dissappear into a side passage way in Bordesley Green the other day on your Ariel. Nice bike. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 03 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
lots of stalks in it, or seeds


I used to love getting seeds (but not stalks!) ... never seem to get seeds these days Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 03 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
Ste wrote:
lots of stalks in it, or seeds


I used to love getting seeds (but not stalks!) ... never seem to get seeds these days Crying or Very sad

Don't smoke them. They give you a headache. Stalks are OK if you've run out of absolutely everything else
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 03 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't smoke the seeds ... I like them cos then you can grooooooooooow them! Mr. Green Thumbs Up
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Why would you want to grow bagseed? Razz If weed has seeds in it, it's not likely to be as good because it means the plant is a hermaphodite, probably due to stress whilst growing. The seeds grown from it will be likely to have this trait as well.

It's all been said above really. Weed is the bud from the flowering cannabis plant. Skunk is mostly a tabloid word but is used when growers cross-pollenate two or more strains to get the best plant characteristics. For example, I have some AK-47 crossed with LowRyder, which will create a small version of the smelly, potent AK. So it's called Minigun, and it could be termed a skunk, but really it's just an optimised weed plant.

The thing about hash is that you can't really just buy it, if you want anything good. Best to stick to weed for the majority of the time, and when some good sounding hash comes around, get some, because it will be veeery good. If it's soft, that's good. If it's a light brown, that's even better. If it's very hard and dark brown, run like hell because it's crap. It's dealt around £40 an oz. where I go, which is enough for me not to buy it - nothing that cheap will be any cop.

The weight depends very much upon the dealer - people have listed the standard weights above. If you're paying £25 for a 3.4/6g 8th, it better be good weed or someone's taking the piss. Personally I get 4g 20 bags, mostly Kali Mist, but I was very fortunate to find this chap, he's vastly better than most.

People mostly deal in 10s and 20s in my experience. The problem with the '20 bag' system is you're often not actually getting an eighth, but a small bit under, as a lot of people are charging £25 to the eighth these days. It's best to actually ask for an eighth, and if it's £25 then it better be good.

Discounts for bulk buying is variable at best, unless you're going to someone higher up the food chain. In my experience standard dealers will knock a tenner off if you buy a half, and £20 for an ounce. If you can get in touch with someone who deals to dealers, then you should be paying around £100 an ounce, which is lovely, but most of those guys would be expecting anything above a couple of ounces minimum order.
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 03 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
I wouldn't smoke the seeds ... I like them cos then you can grooooooooooow them! Mr. Green Thumbs Up


got 3 seeds out of a 20 last monday hmmmm what to do with them Rolling Eyes Wink

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Skunk.

"Skunk" cannabis is a potent strain of cannabis, grown through selective breeding and usually hydroponics, that is a cross-breed of Cannabis sativa and C. indica. Skunk cannabis potency ranges usually from 6% to 15% and rarely as high as 20%. The average THC level in coffeehouses in the Netherlands is about 18–19%.[40]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_%28drug%29#New_breeding_and_cultivation_techniques

The picture of "Orange Crush" on that page is very very similar if not the same as the gear to be had off the bloke I used to get it from.
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As i'm building up an impressive 'rainy day' collection (base, speed, diaz, viagra, acid, mdma to name the few i remember) i'm after getting just a quart of decent hash. Maybe more.

You see, i never smoke weed for the shit of it anymore. It sends me to sleep, and makes me feel retarded if i do it more then one day in a row. I don't feel the loss of intellect, but i feel it come back when i stop.

So now i've decided to bugger that off.

Hash though, is a nice mellow high i quite enjoy when im coming down off pills/acid etc. Plus it lasts forever, so keeping a block for when its useful isn't a problem.

But can you find any decent stuff? Can you fook. And even if you do find something vaguely decent the new kids on the block are trying to charge 20-25 an 8th like its some type of super stuff.
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 03 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

See if you can find anyone with bubblehash, its about 60% THC content. Wink
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