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MetalheadA7X
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 01 May 2008    Post subject: 33bhp restricted options. Reply with quote

I have decided to skip the whole 125cc thing out after many recommendations to just take lessons and get my A2 license.

Now i am looking for bikes i can restrict to 33bhp.
The bikes i have looked at so far are,

Suzuki bandit 600
Suzuki SV650
Yamaha FZ Fazer 600
Honda CB600 Hornet.

I have heard some bikes take restrictors better than others and i am just wondering which would be more suitable for me.



thanks alot Smile
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 01 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll keep an eye on this thread - I'm also keeping an open mind about doing this. Thought about getting a 200-250cc?
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 02 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldnt bother with a 250 really, i cant imagine them having a very long life span..i mean after i sell my 125 i wanna jump on a 600..all be it it will be restricted Smile
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 02 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

adama wrote:
I wouldnt bother with a 250 really, i cant imagine them having a very long life span..i mean after i sell my 125 i wanna jump on a 600..all be it it will be restricted Smile


There's some good 250's out there, such as the Hornet 250, Ninja 250 etc, DS55 on here has one, think it's a '91 bike (not too sure on that one, but after looking over my shoulder, he's across the room - will make him post!) and is making 28bhp restricted (due to it losing power over time).

Get's him upto 80 relatively fast, tops out around a ton.

600's are probably a lot heavier than the 250's aswell.
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 02 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a 250, there great fun love mine. Got mine in November 2007, been riding it since then through out the winter every day, no problems as of yet (touch wood). Its a 1998 model so nearly ten years old.

I like how they are great fun to thrash, and by thrash I mean keeping it between 10-14,000rmp lots of fun. Yeah like Truslack said, goes up to 80 easy enough and tops out at about 100. Redline is 16,000 and the rev limiter is at 17,500.

If I was going to buy another 33bhp bike I'd buy the 250 hornet again love mine and can't understand why people look down on 250's. For the two year restriction they are the best.

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PostPosted: 14:22 - 02 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ds55 wrote:

If I was going to buy another 33bhp bike I'd buy the 250 hornet again love mine and can't understand why people look down on 250's. For the two year restriction they are the best.
Charlie.


Or get an MT500 Laughing

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PostPosted: 16:44 - 02 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm looking to do the same aswell but look at insurance first because ive been getting some mad quotes! Confused Heres a few so it can give you a rough idea. Based on 18 years old, no NCB and in NW London. All TPFT

GSXR600 (2001) - £1600
R6 (2001) - £9000 Shocked
Hornet 600 - £1200
SV650 (2003) - £965
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 02 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats nothing

2000 ZX6R Ninja TPTF - Bennetts quoted me £3500 :S
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 02 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bennets is very high. BikeInsurer seems to be a bit cheaper. But still mad though even a GSXR400 or ZXR400 comes to like £2000 fully comp!
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 02 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ins will vary a lot from person to person. No one co is cheap for all. You just gotta get some quotes and then ring round to see if they will beat each other.

I had a zzr250 and the ins on that was more than my xj600.

Now i know which of the 2 i would rather ride, and sadly despite my love of lightweight 250's its not the zzr.
600 has far more stability at the end of the day.
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 02 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ds55 wrote:
Get a 250, there great fun love mine. Got mine in November 2007, been riding it since then through out the winter every day, no problems as of yet (touch wood). Its a 1998 model so nearly ten years old.

I like how they are great fun to thrash, and by thrash I mean keeping it between 10-14,000rmp lots of fun. Yeah like Truslack said, goes up to 80 easy enough and tops out at about 100. Redline is 16,000 and the rev limiter is at 17,500.

If I was going to buy another 33bhp bike I'd buy the 250 hornet again love mine and can't understand why people look down on 250's. For the two year restriction they are the best.

Charlie.


How much did you pay for yours? Don't seem to be many about online.
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 02 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

adama wrote:
I wouldnt bother with a 250 really, i cant imagine them having a very long life span..i mean after i sell my 125 i wanna jump on a 600..all be it it will be restricted Smile


My 250 is 24 years old, a 250 is a perfectly capable machine and was a lot kinder to my licence than the CB500 I had been riding previously.
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 03 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

rac3r wrote:
I'm looking to do the same aswell but look at insurance first because ive been getting some mad quotes! Confused Heres a few so it can give you a rough idea. Based on 18 years old, no NCB and in NW London. All TPFT

GSXR600 (2001) - £1600
R6 (2001) - £9000 Shocked
Hornet 600 - £1200
SV650 (2003) - £965


I'd heavily advise TPO only. And I'll explain.

Let's say you payed 1700 for the bike. Insurance for TPF&T 1500 (average). TPO could be 800-1200

If your bike gets stolen you have to pay a 300 excess. And insurance companies being insurance companies they'd probably only give 1500 for the bike. So You'd get 1200.

The you lose getting an NCB for that year so you lose out on saving money for the future. Not only that but you'll have a claim against you for the next 5 years which can quite easily double the insurance.

So you get back 1200 from insurance. But then you payed around 500 extra for TPF&T. That's 700 better of AT THE MOMENT. Then the fact that you have no NCB means you don't save any money next time round (can make quite a difference. My 2 ncb saved me 250 this year) Then your insurance could easily be more expensive by around 500-700 pounds quite easily. So your 100 better of (in average) for the first year. But then you have 4 years worth of higher insurance.

It really isn't worth getting TPF&T/ fully comp when you are young and the bike is worth less than 3k - 3.5k and the difference between TPO and TPF&T / fully comp isn't much and if it'll affect you much over the next 5 years and the fact that you can lose all your NCB unless they're protected.

My 2 pence on insurance.

Also, get a Hornet. Still fast, good cornering, wheelieable and stoppieable as stock, comfy, looks good and is very reliable.


Best of luck with everything Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 04 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steven001 wrote:
How much did you pay for yours? Don't seem to be many about online.


Embarassed

I paid dealer rates and was slightly ripped off, got it for £2050. I would buy it again for that money, but it seems a bit expensive thats all.
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 04 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

its ok having a 600 restricted to 33brake but your insurance will be sky high i bet.
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 04 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

2006 _p1 wrote:
its ok having a 600 restricted to 33brake but your insurance will be sky high i bet.

£300 TPO on a Bandit 6, for me at 17 with no NCB and 1 claim.
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 04 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow i got quoted 421 for a cr 500 with 1 year no claims....
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 04 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

truslack wrote:
2006 _p1 wrote:
its ok having a 600 restricted to 33brake but your insurance will be sky high i bet.

£300 TPO on a Bandit 6, for me at 17 with no NCB and 1 claim.


I got the same price for a Bandit 600 aswell. Why not get a Bandit 1200 instead for £410 TPFT Cool
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 04 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow where do you guys go for your insurance?
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 04 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

2006 _p1 wrote:
wow where do you guys go for your insurance?


Bennetts.
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 04 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats where i got my quote from. Doh!
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 04 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine was Devitt I think, I did the comparison thingy on www.thebikeinsurer.co.uk.
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 04 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

2006 _p1 wrote:
wow where do you guys go for your insurance?


Cheap quotes is different for every person. I haven't stayed with the same insurance company since I started as others were cheaper. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 13 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

290 quid for my XJ650 TURBO!!!

and im 18 with 2 years NCB

that was swinton by the way

TURBO!!!!!

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PostPosted: 21:40 - 13 Oct 2008    Post subject: Re: 33bhp restricted options. Reply with quote

MetalheadA7X wrote:
I have decided to skip the whole 125cc thing out after many recommendations to just take lessons and get my A2 license.

Now i am looking for bikes i can restrict to 33bhp.
The bikes i have looked at so far are,

Suzuki bandit 600
Suzuki SV650
Yamaha FZ Fazer 600
Honda CB600 Hornet.

I have heard some bikes take restrictors better than others and i am just wondering which would be more suitable for me.



thanks alot Smile


the SV650/S will take restrictions well (from what ive heard) as its a V-Twin! they have more torque midrange, so there wont be that much of a difference!

i believe that all the other ones are IL4s which dont take them as well... but doesnt mean that they will perform badly!

im looking at getting a 2003 onwards SV650S or a CBR600F.

all bikes youve listed are excellent bikes, but apparently one thing to watch out for on SV650's is that the forks corrode a lot.

hope that helped Thumbs Up

post piccys when u get the bike you want Wink
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