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Damon
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 04 May 2008    Post subject: New Tail unit... Reply with quote

I don't know if this is in the right section or not so feel free to move to "show and tell" if needs be.

Well, it all started when I fitted my new alarm into the tail unit of my bike. I found replacing my rear seat was hindered by the new alarm unit rivited to the subframe of the RS. My rear seat was scratched anyway from the previous owners launching it into a hedge, so, I decided to make a new rear seat cowl that could replace the dodgy looking, dodgy fitting rear seat. I know I can buy tail units off ebay but I wanted something that I could just attach to my existing tail unit. Meaning I can quickly chuck the old seat back on if needs be.

So first off, I went and removed the rear seat from the bike and got some fibreglassing gear ready from Halfrauds. I started by covering the seat in a layer of resin and then applying some precut fibreglass matting strips ontop to form a copy of the seat dimentions (well a mm or 2 bigger).

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As I wanted a sort of fin ontop of the seat to prevent people sitting I went about making a fin using a cardboard model as a guide. I layed the fibreglass over the model using the exact same method as before. Once that was dry I took some industrial scissors and cut off any rough edges. I then took the sanding block to it, making sure everything was straight and even. When prying the cured fibreglass mould from the carboard i managed to get a small layer of card on the inside that wouldn't budge. Luckily it will not be seen, so I plow on.

https://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2941/48395825up6.jpg

Next step was to attach this fin onto the main unit, tidy up the edges and general shaping. Again using fibreglass matting I eyed up the fin on the unit and began attaching it using a higher concentration of hardener to resin (as I didnt want to wait for it to dry). Once this was dry I started on the edges. Again, I used cardboard on the inside of the main unit to give the fibreglass strips something to sit on whilst drying. These were removed while the FG was almost cured but still slightly tacky, thus reducing the chance of the cardboard bonding perminately to tail unit. Once the strips around the edge of the unit were completely dried, I took the scissors to them to create an even edge, and an obital sander to ensure everything was as required.

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I follwed this by shaping the fin so that it wouldn't poke me in the back if I leant back. My hacksaw was in my garage so I had to make do with a breadknife. It worked a treat and make the fin seem slightly smaller (which I wanted). You may have noticed I have now finished fibreglassing around the edge of the unit and shaping it correctly. I also sprayed it with grey primer for added cool effect. I will be using the primer for sanding as I find it helps to get an even surface.

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Then it was time for test fitting... and low and behold it was slightly too long Rolling Eyes So using the accurate measurment of my fingers I cut down the length of the seat unit by around about 1/4 inch. And welded it back together using fibreglass tissue (thought I would try that instead(its much better to work with)). Test fitted again and it was perfect Mr. Green Next I mixed up some car body filler and fibreglass resin to the radio of around 5:2 and painted it into the unit. The resin waters down the bodyfiller and gives it a harder surface whilst still being relatively easy to sand.
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And there we are, As I am writing this, it is sitting outside basking in the great english weather. I will update as I make more progress in the next few days. Thumbs Up


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PostPosted: 16:02 - 04 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks like a chunk of frozen fish
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 04 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fin... erm what can we say?

looks... interesting?

I say scrap the fin... its your bike why should someone sit on it without your permission?
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 04 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

what are you going to do with that gaping hole?
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 04 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

The hole will be filled (I filled it tonight). I done this by cutting out the triangle shape in fibreglass tissue and then placing it on a piece of laminated card. Once this was dried, I peeled it off and fitted it over the hole and held that in place with resin. I then continued to use the mixture of bodyfiller / resin to cover the rest of the unit with a thin film. As I was using cheap brushes, I managed to lose about 20% of the bristles in with the bodyfiller. Cue using tweesers to pick them out one by one. Thats why it looks a bit messy in the picture.

Since this picture was taken I've started sanding down. Will do more in the morning. Its about day 5 of the project now.
https://img378.imageshack.us/img378/7410/48835975zg4.jpg

EDIT: here is a picture of it after a first quick sand. I will resand/fill tomorrow and continue to do so until everything is smooth and there are no ridges.

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PostPosted: 06:44 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I honestly say scrap the fin or atleast make i as wide as the top of the seat, that should atleast look ok...
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a bit too late now as I would ruin it by taking the fin off. Let me know what you think when its finished as I agree it looks a bit naff at the moment.

Keep the comments coming

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PostPosted: 16:34 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it hard to fibre glass? You do alot of it so if you got msn can i grab some tips off you? Cheers.
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should look ok once the sanding is done.
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should look ok once the sanding is done.
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

XlonewolfX wrote:
Is it hard to fibre glass? You do alot of it so if you got msn can i grab some tips off you? Cheers.


Yeah no worries,

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Its not hard to do, just bloody messy and smelly stuff. I am going to try my own Carbon fibre soonish, so I'll post the results if i manage to do it sucessfully Thumbs Up

Yeah hopefully. Its starting to take shape at the moment after a afternoon of sanding, but there is still a long way to go to get it completely smooth. Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: 21:08 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

UPDATE

Today I spent my evening making friends with 60 grit sandpaper. I spent what seemed like forever sanding and filling to get a totally smooth surface. When I was happy and slightly bored I gave it a quick rub over with 600grit wet and dry to remove the marks the 60 left. I then gave it a coat with primer to see where I would have to sand again tomorrow. This is what it looks like so far...

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Tomorrow I will finish off sanding to get everything completely smooth. A couple of spots wern't perfect. I will then give it a couple of coats of primer and start working on a method to keep it on the bike.
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good job so far
Looking forward to seeing on bike!
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would almost take a mould of that, and try and sell a couple on ebay or the like, you may even may your money back Very Happy
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