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PostPosted: 13:31 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Don't call me white. Reply with quote

So it seems the majority of us dont exist.

I've just filled in a job application form and it asked for my ethnic background. It had absolutely every race colour and creed under the sun on the check sheet but not me.

White, english.

Closest I could find was White European!

Not even British and white was on the list. Are we being phased out or something?

I dont consider myself european, im English ( British at a push ) tis getting beyond a joke.
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

All done in the name of promoting positive discrimination.

Tell them you're a gay jewish dwarf, you'll be shoe in for any job.

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PostPosted: 13:55 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't get it at all.

Surely if they don't want to discriminate in any way how about DON'T ASK! Rolling Eyes That way it's more of a lucky dip. Might get asian, might get black, might get a woman or *shocker* might get white! Oh the surprise! White people want to work too!

Total bollocks. (I'm not white British)

Mixed Race FTW though Smile
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

It wasnt meant in a racist sense, i just dont understand why they feel the need to ask. They didnt ask my age ( incase of age discrimination ) yet they feel the need to ask my ethnic background yet they dont provide for the most likely candidate.

I dont see what difference it makes being black/white/brown/green makes to being a mechanical fitter!

All of the PC bollocks is really beyond a joke.
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it was. PC should die. As well as Health and Safety.

I'm Colombian. People call me a drug dealer. Whoop dee fucking doo! I just tell them to be careful otherwise they might end up in a body bag Smile

If black people get offended by being called black, tough luck.

If paki's (short for pakistani) hate being called that then don't call anyone brits.

Sooner or later "coloured" people will be rascist soon. Rolling Eyes

What are we gonna say about black people now? "darker shade of white"? Or will that be too rascist Mad
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

m0l0t0v wrote:

I'm Colombian. People call me a drug dealer. Whoop dee fucking doo! I just tell them to be careful otherwise they might end up in a body bag Smile



Thought you were half colombian and half scottish?

Where were you born though? As surely that is what you are.
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am yes. But who really gives a fuck? (not being offensive to you there)

I was born in Melrose, Scotland. But I moved when I was about 3 months old to live in Colombia where I grew up until I was about half 10-11. Spanish is my mother tongue, then German and then English.

So what would you call me, British or Colombian? Razz
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr_fisty wrote:
It wasnt meant in a racist sense, i just dont understand why they feel the need to ask. They didnt ask my age ( incase of age discrimination ) yet they feel the need to ask my ethnic background yet they dont provide for the most likely candidate.

I dont see what difference it makes being black/white/brown/green makes to being a mechanical fitter!

All of the PC bollocks is really beyond a joke.


No positive discrimination on age, but yes on ethnicity. There are quotas that need filled in terms of ethnicity, gender, disability and sexual preference; but not age.

The trick is to tick as many boxes as you can, so a muslim, hermaphrodite, double amputee, homosexual (age variable) person will get just about any job in the offing.

The Civil Service is really bad for it, when I applied for my current job it was on a wing and a prayer. I still got it though, I think because I ticked one of the afore-mentioned boxes, that was 2 years ago and I still have no idea what I'm doing. Laughing

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PostPosted: 14:26 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

m0l0t0v wrote:


So what would you call me? Razz


A lucky fvcking dip.
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing

Going to have to use that now!
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

m0l0t0v wrote:
I'm Colombian.


WE KNOW FFS

P.S I agree with the original post, but you can't say that, makes you racist innit.
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You didnt happen to get this job application from either
Birmingham
or
London

If so you already know whites are out numbered, and hide away in their houses as it could start huge gang wars and lots of blood spill if they steal the black peoples jobs! ( No racism intended )
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

phantomtek wrote:
m0l0t0v wrote:
I'm Colombian.


WE KNOW FFS

P.S I agree with the original post, but you can't say that, makes you racist innit.


Aww is me mentioning that make you cry or die a little inside? Poor diddums

I don't mention it much. Only when it's part of the topic or part of my story.

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PostPosted: 15:10 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

m0l0t0v wrote:
Aww is me mentioning that make you cry or die a little inside? Poor diddums

I don't mention it much. Only when it's part of the topic or part of my story.

Wink


Not really, it just gets annoying when its in every second post.

But now it turns out you're actually Scottish I can see your reasoning behind it! Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing

I haven't put it in every second post.... Unless I have Alzheimer's.... *goes back to check*
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_guvnor_1_uk wrote:
Where were you born though? As surely that is what you are.


I disagree mate. I was born in Al Ain in the United Arab Emirates and lived the first ten years of my life in Abu Dhabi before moving to Dubai.

However, my parents were both born and raised in England and i have a British Passport and use English on a daily basis and people recognise me as an English teenager and i can only speak a few words/phrases/sentences of Arabic.

So where do i stand on filling out these forms because compared to most Brits i've got quite a decent tan so my complaint is...where the fuck is the option for Tanned British?! Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're an Arab get over it. Wink
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funnily enough arab wasnt on the form. Nor was dwarf jew.

In the end I ticked the box marked "other".

The job wasnt in london or Birmingham, but in the land of Leicester, hinkley to be precise!
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PostPosted: 15:44 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

quacker_boy wrote:
So where do i stand on filling out these forms because compared to most Brits i've got quite a decent tan so my complaint is...where the fuck is the option for Tanned British?! Laughing


Tanned British is a bit of an oxymoron, it would never get ticked. (Except if you happened to just have gotten back from Tenerife or Magaloof and are applying for a job.)

Fake tan doesn't count, no box for Lobster Brit.

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PostPosted: 15:50 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

m0l0t0v wrote:
If paki's (short for pakistani) hate being called that then don't call anyone brits.


'Paki' may be short for Pakistani but over the years it has become a derogative term rather than a simple abbreviation. There's a big difference between the intent behind 'Brit' and 'Paki'.
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Re: Don't call me white. Reply with quote

mr_fisty wrote:
So it seems the majority of us dont exist.

I've just filled in a job application form and it asked for my ethnic background. It had absolutely every race colour and creed under the sun on the check sheet but not me.

White, english.

Closest I could find was White European!

Not even British and white was on the list. Are we being phased out or something?

I dont consider myself european, im English ( British at a push ) tis getting beyond a joke.


No you've got it wrong. White english is not an ethnicity.

European is just a way of qualifying the white part, because some asian people could be considered 'white' but white european isn't ambiguous. If you were from the US and white you'd still be white european as that is where that particular ethnicity originates from.

Its not about not acknowledging that you are english - its about recording your ethnicity. Plus, if you are to take it to extremes the native english people were actually celts, and the saxons came from France. So technically you are white european in the continental sense as well as the general sense.
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

pa_broon74 wrote:
Tanned British is a bit of an oxymoron, it would never get ticked.


Well I dunno, i never seem to go White, i've always got a brownish tinge.

McGee you're just an arse. Hush fatty. Wink
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr_fisty wrote:
Funnily enough arab wasnt on the form. Nor was dwarf jew.

In the end I ticked the box marked "other".


You probably won't get it as they will think you are being deliberately obtuse (which you are).

You are supposed to tick the box which most describes your ethnicity, not whether or not your English, British, Cornish, or you're a Acrington Stanley supporter, or a Jedi or a Taoist or whatever.

You know this, and thats why you posted the thread. You're making this an issue where there isn't one IMO - which could get you into trouble with job seeking if you're not careful.
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe wrote:
m0l0t0v wrote:
If paki's (short for pakistani) hate being called that then don't call anyone brits.


'Paki' may be short for Pakistani but over the years it has become a derogative term rather than a simple abbreviation. There's a big difference between the intent behind 'Brit' and 'Paki'.


Just because some use it as a derogatory word doesn't mean it is derogatory.

If I say the paki shop I am not being racist.

If I say the paki's in the paki shop I am not being racist.

If I say the paki in the paki shop is a cunt I would get called racist but its not.

If I say fucking paki's, people will say I am racist.

If paki's or any other nationality say "fucking brits" its not racist in exactly the same way me saying "fucking paki's" is not racist.

Regardless of how many ridiculous stupid do gooding prats want to tell me otherwise.

If I say some one is a cunt BECAUSE they are a paki, then bingo theres your racism, but I object to people telling me an abbreviation of a word is racist.

Next they will be telling aussies not to say barbie so they dont offend all the cute little barbecues that they have on the beach.


(just so I cant be called racist, I would like to add that Australians can and quite possibly do have barbecues at home as well as the steroetype I used for the beach)
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 05 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paki may be an abbreviation of Pakistani but that's a bit of a moot point. It's just like calling a black person a coon. Admittedly, coon isn't an abbreviation but the meaning behind Paki has changed over the years to something with racist meaning whether you use it like that or not.
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