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powelly
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 10 May 2008    Post subject: Im an uber hacker... apparently Reply with quote

I develop web sites and provide hosting for sme's for a living, Ive got a bit an odd problem at the moment, I've got a dispute with a client trying to get out of paying a bill, not the first time, and I doubt it will be the last so I can just pass that on the the debt collector to deal with.

The odd bit is the clients latest email, since his hosting account was suspended for non payment they have emailed me accusing me of changing passwords on other unrelated accounts, even doing something to their Internet Provider.

Now while the uber hacker title is quite cool among the hacker community I'm not really keen on the accusations around my day to day business.

I'm thinking get a solicitors letter sent regarding the accusations to nip it in the bud but I dont really have any experience with this.

Any suggestions?
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 10 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do that, nip it in the bud - uber hacker is a nice title, but hacker is generally perceived as bad, so it's not something you want to have around your day-to-day business image.

I'm sure they wouldn't like to be sued for libel or slander, so quietly requesting them not to make such spurious allegations would be a good idea.

Happy to help Smile

Oh, and for the record, I'm not a hacker.. I'm a Security Professional Razz
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 11 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

samharcus wrote:

Oh, and for the record, I'm not a hacker.. I'm a Security Professional Razz


A little story for ya all.

Finished school, all young and eager to goto college with an passion for IT Security.

Started college and enrolled on a course to help me on my way. Got matey with the network admin and asked him if i could check out the security on his network. "Sure thing, have fun but i dont think you will be able to find any backdoors, holes, or anything for that matter."

2 days later the network admin comes over and says "can you let me access my own network please" I say "Sure thing" and gave him my notes and helped him fix and plug the problems i found.

A week after that i was "asked to leave" the college. Rolling Eyes

Jump forward a couple of years, and replay the same events but in a different college.

All i wanted to be was an "Ethical Hacker"

The end

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PostPosted: 15:46 - 11 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol ^
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 11 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA_temporary wrote:
samharcus wrote:

Oh, and for the record, I'm not a hacker.. I'm a Security Professional Razz


A little story for ya all.

Finished school, all young and eager to goto college with an passion for IT Security.

Started college and enrolled on a course to help me on my way. Got matey with the network admin and asked him if i could check out the security on his network. "Sure thing, have fun but i dont think you will be able to find any backdoors, holes, or anything for that matter."

2 days later the network admin comes over and says "can you let me access my own network please" I say "Sure thing" and gave him my notes and helped him fix and plug the problems i found.

A week after that i was "asked to leave" the college. Rolling Eyes

Jump forward a couple of years, and replay the same events but in a different college.

All i wanted to be was an "Ethical Hacker"

The end

CaNsA


Wouldn't you think you could have got a job there to fix the security problem they obviously had.
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PostPosted: 04:51 - 12 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:


Wouldn't you think you could have got a job there to fix the security problem they obviously had.


Cos thats what would happen in an ideal world, along with cheap renewable fuel, cancer-less ciggies and flying cars Very Happy
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PostPosted: 07:35 - 12 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Used to get an issue with kids playing network hacking all the time when I worked at a college, in the IT dept. The same old story, as above. In fact it was the most annoying, childish, 'oh look at me look how crap the college is' kind of pursuit a smelly young goit could waste his time with. Why not spend time squeezing spots instead?

Fact of the matter is, every time one of these pre-pubescent plebs actually managed to gain access to a folder they didn't originally know was there, some lecturer would see and the whole IT infrastructure would be hauled over the coals and we would have to waste our time plugging this 'hole' and justifying and recording details of the incident. Not to mention that all the staff would go back to saving stuff on floppy disks and call us about twenty times a day because they were shite and they kept losing them and wanting the data from a backup, which we would have to look for and wouldn't be able to find because they'd ONLY saved it on a disk.

Back to the OP> I'd have a quick back-and-forth with the hosting company, maybe they can supply you with a changelog for the account (dates passwords were changed?) and you could send that off. Make a couple of copies of a letter, send one to yourself and one to your 'client' and see if it does the trick...
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CaNsA
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 12 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

UnknownStuntman wrote:
Used to get an issue with kids playing network hacking all the time when I worked at a college, in the IT dept. The same old story, as above. In fact it was the most annoying, childish, 'oh look at me look how crap the college is' kind of pursuit a smelly young goit could waste his time with. Why not spend time squeezing spots instead?


I know this happens and i have seen it for myself.

In my case i approached the Admin, discussed what my plans were, what i wanted to do, logged everything, and helped him fix the problems that he didnt even know were there.

I did laugh at the "i watched hackers and i am zero-cool" kids. They made me laff Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 12 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cracked the college FTP server when I was there. Sent an email to the admin and he fixed the problem with thanks. Very Happy

That was a while ago, though, and yes, I did think hacking was cool. (Having just watched The Matrix...)

To Powelly: if you were to get a solicitor involved I don't think you'd have much of a case unfortunately unless he was actually being libelious (by saying it to all and sundry).

Just tell him to stop being such a damn foo'.
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 12 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done the same, and a lot of the time it's been "look, here are the holes - FIX them, before someone who isn't as nice as me, does some serious damage... seems better than letting them fall on their arses regardless

And Hackers.. inaccurate, but fun enough to watch ... wouldn't complain waking up as Acid Burn, but maybe that's just me..
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 13 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

All these loopholes you speak of,
we used to find what we could and share around, why tell admins/teachers ruins the fun Laughing

Still remember a whole class in IT all using proxy for browing all playing games and the teacher thinking wtf, and when my mate went on midjet porn, funny days.
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