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WILDECELT Scooby Slapper
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Posted: 00:29 - 10 May 2008 Post subject: Boris bike lanes ? |
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So what do you all think ?
Will Boris stick to his word and allow bikers in the big smoke ( London ) to use bus lanes ?. A plus for general safety i think
Or will the cyclist lobby be up in arms crying into their green eco one armed peruvian lesbian made scarf's, that bikers pose a threat to law abiding cyclists and maybe in mass protest they will start staying at traffic lights when red, rather than jumping them at any opportunity and crossing lanes when they feel like it and cutting other road users up ?
Ps I'm not anti cyclist I just feel as a motorcyclist we are bottom of the pecking order when it comes to safety and common sense in London due to the image of promoting London as a green eco city |
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Mister James I want to believe!
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JonB Afraid of Mileage
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Posted: 15:39 - 12 May 2008 Post subject: |
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To be fair, I can only see minimal advantage of being able to ride in a bus lane.
You are sharing a lane with big diesel buses. Higher chance of diesel spills if you ask me. We all know that is a bikers favourite excuse for crashing.
Also, you are aware that buses stop every 100 metres or so? So anytime you are following one, you will then have the ballache of passing it, whilst hoping some dumb pedestrian isn't running out in front of the bus to cross the road.
Add into this the fact that when buses pull out they believe that as soon as their right indicator is flicked on they are automatically allowed to pull out and carry on with their own business.
Bus lanes are used quite a lot by buses and taxis in Coventry, so can't imagine what it is like in London, but I can't really see many benefits from being able to use a bus lane. ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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Mister James I want to believe!
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Posted: 19:22 - 12 May 2008 Post subject: |
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Jon B wrote: | To be fair, I can only see minimal advantage of being able to ride in a bus lane.
You are sharing a lane with big diesel buses. Higher chance of diesel spills if you ask me. We all know that is a bikers favourite excuse for crashing.
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The bus lanes where I am seem to be mostly comprised of shellgrip - or something similar. As most traffic isn't allowed on them for most of the day, they tend to have less debris and spillages in them rather than more.
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Also, you are aware that buses stop every 100 metres or so? So anytime you are following one, you will then have the ballache of passing it, whilst hoping some dumb pedestrian isn't running out in front of the bus to cross the road.
Add into this the fact that when buses pull out they believe that as soon as their right indicator is flicked on they are automatically allowed to pull out and carry on with their own business.
Bus lanes are used quite a lot by buses and taxis in Coventry, so can't imagine what it is like in London, but I can't really see many benefits from being able to use a bus lane. |
Here in NW London, most bus lanes run along the side of stationary traffic (stationary because it is 2 lanes' worth of traffic squeezed into one). As such, being able to actually use the bus lane rather than filter along the inside of the traffic is a massive improvement, and ducking around the side of buses is a small price to pay. As the buses are usually caught up in the gridlock caused by the aforementioned two lanes merging, you'd usually have a fairly clear run of it. ____________________ >Soultrader Mister James, I bet you are a copper
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WildGoose White Van Man
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Quote: | Add into this the fact that when buses pull out they believe that as soon as their right indicator is flicked on they are automatically allowed to pull out and carry on with their own business. |
To be fair this is what the highway code is telling other motorists, so the buses get a certain comfort zone in their own head "oh I have the right of way, so any collision based on me pulling out won't be my fault"
The average London bus driver isnt the sharpest tool.
The advantage would be huge for motorcyclists, and wouldnt inflict on car motorists one way or another, they may actually have it rubbed in their faces less, as due to the tunnel vision of most, they are less likely to notice a motorbike speeding past in a bus lane, compared to squeezing between their bumpers.
The A41, has been a success story for bikes, its been open to bikes since I first started riding a ped and riding it into London. Just imagine the joy of opening the bus lanes on park pane, piccadilly, kensington road, regent Street, baker Street, marylebone road, and any other number of overly congested ball aches of roads in the middle. ____________________ So in other words, he stopped you for being flagrantly in posession of a motorcycle in direct contravention of the Hippies, Darkies and People Whose Face I Don't Like The Look of (Police Powers) Act. 1976 |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 16 years, 30 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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