116mph in a 40 zone gets you...

Kris · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Karma :

Jail (Well young offenders anyway)

Does the punishment fit the crime?
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Steve H · World Chat Champion Joined: 18 Oct 2003 Karma :

If you compare it to recent sentances administered for arguably more provocative crimes, possibly not.

However taken in isolation I would say he got everything he deserved.

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MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

Its ridiculous... That bike theiving gang that was convicted about a year ago got about four months apiece and this guy gets three months for speeding? WTF Evil or Very Mad

We always hear about rapists etc only getting trivial sentences compared to their crime and yet this guy gets three months for speeding!

The world has gone mad I tell you. Confused

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craigT19 · Jolly Green Giant Joined: 09 Feb 2002 Karma :

as far as rapists go...remember a judge will never convict his own kind Razz

dirty drug snorting, hooker buying, wig wearing law preaching cunts Smile

but i think the but much deserved what he got, and just to add on.

a year ago police caught a major gang of motorcycle thiefs opperating on the south cost, they found over 200 bikes waiting to be shipped abroad (gone in 60 seconds style) in a warehouse in poole. although they never got mr big...the thiefs each got 2 years
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Steve H · World Chat Champion Joined: 18 Oct 2003 Karma :

It's impossible to compare crimes of murder, robbery, nicking a packet of Crisps from your local Co-Op against one another.

In English law a decision is made (rightly or wrongly) on the basis of the facts of the case, not what so and so got for a similar offence last week (or so they would have you believe!).

The world isn't mad (maybe just in need of slight pscho-analysis Wink

) it's the pratt who was doing 100+ in a 40 zone who's the idiot.

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MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Tis a bit much. Although I don't know the details like weather, road, and all that, it was at night so hardly likely to be packed with pedestrians.

Makes you think though, there are some 40 limit roads I know which I can happily do 130+ on Confused

Steve H · World Chat Champion Joined: 18 Oct 2003 Karma :

Marjay,

My 'world is mad (pscho-analysis)' comment was supposed to be slightly ironic - Apologies if it was misinterpreted.

I would reiterate however that it's impossible to compare one crime against another (you're mugging example). Morally and Ethically it can be argued that a rapist/mugger/murderer should get more than someone who was going fast in a car but legally (and this is the issue) it will never happen as each case is taken in isolation.

There's no argument for doing 116mph in a 40mph zone whether you're in control or not so comparison against someone doing the required limit is not an option. You cannot be in control of your surroundings nor other people's actions so in this case to say that you could be in control at that speed would be pure illusion.

Internet 'discussion' is a real nightmare 'cos it's so open to misenterpretation and I certainly wouldn't want to fall out over something as inconsequential as a tw@t speeding excessively in his Daddy's car. Us Triumph owners have gotta stick together Wink

Cheers

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McJamweasel · BCF Junkie Joined: 22 Mar 2002 Karma :

I read in the paper yesterday about a motorist who mounted a kerb and killed a 12 year old girl. Prison? No. A few hundred pound fine and a ban. Wheres the justice there?
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cliff · Doctor Sicknote Joined: 11 Feb 2004 Karma :

I agree with Steve H. You can never compare two crimes because they all happen under different circumstances. At least go on the motorway if you're going to do that sort of speed. Rolling Eyes

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mtthwpez · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 29 Oct 2003 Karma :

if you do 116 in a 40 limit then you deserve it!
i'm all for relaxing the pressure on speeding but come on at that speed if anything happened thats it!
i hit a twat pedestrian last year who walked out in front of me in pitch black without any high vis gear on and not paying any attention to what he was doing at 28mph or there abouts and it nearly killed him.
he had a compound fracture on his thigh bone,broken nose,cuts to his face and broken fingers.
i came away with a broken headlight unit,cracked front fairing,side protectors did there job so no side damage,bruised thigh and plums thats it i would hate to think what would of happened if i was going any faster!

Danny · Ask Me About Stoppie School Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Karma :

So did he pay for the damage to your bike?

Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Well he shouldn't walk in the road then should he. Rolling Eyes

Roads are not for people. They are for vehicles. If you walk in the road you can hardly moan if something big and metal hits you.

Danny · Ask Me About Stoppie School Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Karma :

Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Yes, but you're being allowed in the road then aren't you. Just walking out in a normal bit of road is still fucking stupid.

And if you're crossing the road, even if the crossing hasa green light for you, it is fairly sensible to check if a 40ton lorry is heading your way. Yes you may have right of way, but I don't think that'll do you much good once you're flat. Rolling Eyes

Danny · Ask Me About Stoppie School Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Karma :

Agreed, but there still are instances where people have checked the road is safe and still been hit.

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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Can't have been very safe if they then got hit Smile

Bendy · Mrs Sensible Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Karma :

Pedestrian insurance!

Danny · Ask Me About Stoppie School Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Karma :

I agree Maurice, this is a problem. I would like to see them pay damages as far as is reasonable/possible/practical.

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mtthwpez · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 29 Oct 2003 Karma :

i could get my money back through the courts but it would take so long to sort out and it didnt cost me hardly anything to put it right so its not really worth it!