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Itchy
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 22 May 2008    Post subject: Africa twin questions Reply with quote

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#1 why do they hold their value so well? , I saw one for sale £3K for a 1994 bike which had done 78K.

#2 What are the downpipes made of stainless or mild steel? , I hear from Odie they bolt right on and its getting silly how starting the NTV causes a big thick black cloud to engulf my feet, (engine is good though the gear selector broke and wouldn't come out of 2nd and I spent 3 miles going home virtually on the back wheel. If they are SS I'll go put a set on the NTV and mate it to my race can and restore the NTV good n proper , yes it is polishing a turd...

Any thoughts?

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PostPosted: 20:35 - 22 May 2008    Post subject: Re: Africa twin questions Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:


Any thoughts?

Ta


Yes.

The NTV down pipes are made of stainless and they are often on Ebay cheap. Buy some.
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 22 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know they are on ebay £25 for the rear one from RBM which is 5 miles away and £40 for a front one, I'm actually looking at £75+£20 post Africa twin pipes.

Why cus Africa twin pipes have a collector box which merges the two downpipes into a single box and has a single 51ish mm outlet pipe which I can mate one of my many CBR exhausts onto the end of it or bodge a link pipe to fit.

If I were to buy stock SS NTV pipes I would need either a motad £175 system or a OEM exhaust both which are expensive, or wait 3 months for Rick to make me a collector box thing.

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PostPosted: 20:56 - 22 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or you could just buy an NTV race can.

Just had a look at them, damn they are pricey but very nice. I have one spare downstairs on a bike.
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 22 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dad's a member but he has the Transalp 650 and the Varadero 1000 so I can't offer much help on the AT side... other than I like them, and have seen some one get their sump guard grinding on the road round corners!
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PostPosted: 01:22 - 23 May 2008    Post subject: Re: Africa twin questions Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
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#1 why do they hold their value so well? , I saw one for sale £3K for a 1994 bike which had done 78K.


They don't make them anymore, but they're still in a lot of demand as they're reputed to be one of the toughest bikes honda made and have a bit more character than some of the more modern touring bikes imho (many of them have gone around the world, some clocking up well over 100,000 miles with very little maintenance and still going strong), and they're reasonably capable for touring both on and off road (though I haven't taken mine off road yet lots of people do and they seem to deal with it quite well).

Being reliable, easy to maintain yourself, and not having the most high-tech components I think makes them attractive to some people who go touring in more out of the way places, as there's less to go wrong, and when things do go wrong they're likely to be easier to fix. They've also got big fuel tanks (with even bigger aftermarket ones available) so get a decent range between fillups.

Also, a lot of the modern adventure bikes seem to be more style over function, whereas I get the impression that the africa twin really will have the capacity to take you almost anywhere you could want to go (there are touring photos of them all over the world in just about every type of environment so that seems to be the case).

That's what attracted me to them, and seeing them in this thread (amongst other places) was partly responsible for me learning to ride and get through my test so I could get one:

https://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50630&page=3

They're also popular with commuters and as winter bikes for people as they're tall so you get good visibility, and they stand up to the weather quite well.

Being tall they also seem to be quite popular with taller/bigger people which probably adds to their demand a bit as well.

Plus they look cool ofcourse (to me anyway).

I think all these things and the fact they don't make them anymore so there's only so many of them about, mean they retain their prices, even when they've got comparatively high milages. Plus I think they were relatively expensive when they were new (the old one I've got was £5k new and that was back in 1990).

You can pick them up for less than 3K though if you keep your eyes open for a while for the right one to come along, or if you don't mind one of the older ones (the RD04 model you can pick up between £1-2k depending upon the milage, condition and extras, and the earlier RD03s for a little more - they're more rare so seem to go for a little more).

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#2 What are the downpipes made of stainless or mild steel? , I hear from Odie they bolt right on and its getting silly how starting the NTV causes a big thick black cloud to engulf my feet, (engine is good though the gear selector broke and wouldn't come out of 2nd and I spent 3 miles going home virtually on the back wheel. If they are SS I'll go put a set on the NTV and mate it to my race can and restore the NTV good n proper , yes it is polishing a turd...


The downpipes and 2 into 1 bit are made of stainless steel. The standard honda cans aren't though you wouldn't be needing that if you're fitting your own. Not sure how easily they'd fit the NTV though.
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