Blair hit by Annan spying claim

Danny · Ask Me About Stoppie School Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Karma :

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/040226/325/en2dt.html

So what do we think about this and the story about the US asking for British help in spying on other UN member states?

Milo · World Chat Champion Joined: 08 Feb 2002 Karma :

Tell him to take his lens caps off and do it himself!

Not that i've read the news article, maybe I should...
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Danny · Ask Me About Stoppie School Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Karma :

Well a big part of the debate/problem is that people have broken the official secrets act to reveal information about illegal activities carrier out by the government.

Ian (GPX) · Brolly Dolly Joined: 05 Aug 2003 Karma :

It's time the Labour Gov fell to it's knees ...... but who should take over ?

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

The rest of the topic has been split and stuck in Fights and Flame wars.

If the kiddies can't play nicely, please play in the proper place Razz

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McJamweasel · BCF Junkie Joined: 22 Mar 2002 Karma :

Back to the point...

I don't have a problem with us or the yanks spying on the UN. Or any of the other 'good guys' for that matter. We(or rather out intelligence service) need to know what they are saying/doing and not telling us about.

What I do have a problem with is Clare Short telling everybody about this. Although I am slightly concerned about why she knew about this anyway, and why she was allowed to read transcripts of Mr Anan's conversations. Surely this should of been dealt with on a 'need to know' basis; what was her need to know?
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Danny · Ask Me About Stoppie School Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Karma :

The problem is that the purpose of the spying IMO was to gain information to help sway the vote of the non-permanent UN council members. Which is perverting the course of democracy.

I think she was well within her rights to tell everyone that the UK government has committed a serious breach of international law. Seeing as the justification for going to war was to uphold international law. Exclamation

EuropeanNC30R... · Gay Hairdresser Joined: 20 Jun 2002 Karma :

Lots of good points, but at the end of the day she has abused her position and betrayed our country.

Danny · Ask Me About Stoppie School Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Karma :

McJamweasel · BCF Junkie Joined: 22 Mar 2002 Karma :

Danny · Ask Me About Stoppie School Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Karma :

The problem is that what she did was the only way to (maybe) to stop this happening. Was she supposed to say to Tony Blair, sorry old chap would you mind not breaking international law awfully?

Also, this particular bit of information IMO hasn't put anyone's life in danger. I don't regard her particulary highly because she is doing this for her own ends, however the translator who blew the whistle gets a Thumbs Up

from me.

I do agree that many if not most countries do spy illegaly on us, but when we were starting a war based on international law and we are simultaniously breaking international law to influence the non-permanent UN council members it's a different matter.

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mr.z · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Feb 2004 Karma :

Don't believe everything you hear in the press..

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So so sorry...

Anyways but of all the scumy dealings that go on we probably only hear about a single figure percentage of, even local government is quite suppriseingly sleezy, its all just behind closed doors, they are all as bad as each other..
Such is the wonder of politics..