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PostPosted: 09:35 - 06 Jun 2008    Post subject: Jeans under leathers Reply with quote

95% of the time, I ride wearing jeans under my leathers, I've not really noticed anyone else do it but it makes it easier to get changed at work, Does anyone else do this? And could it cause problems in an off?
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PostPosted: 09:37 - 06 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

nope, at most i've warn shorts under my leathers, but normally out in my boxers.

however i don't commute and if i did i'd be in my textiles which i do wear jeans/trousers under (that said last time i wore them, twas a little too chilly for leathers, i wore a pair of pjs under them as the lining sticks to skin worse than tar)
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PostPosted: 09:38 - 06 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wear my work trousers under my textiles but at all other times leave my trousers and shoes at work and commute in Draggin jeans instead
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 06 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's chilly I wear a pair of trackie bottoms under mine. The only trouble is I need the missus to stick her hand up my leg and pull them down as they ride up when putting the leathers on.
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 06 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

gsxrmick wrote:
If it's chilly I wear a pair of trackie bottoms under mine. The only trouble is I need the missus to stick her hand up my leg and pull them down as they ride up when putting the leathers on.


You need to tuck your trackies into your socks before you try and put your leathers on!! make sure they are socks with decent elastic!
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 06 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Commando FTW.

Not taht I have any leather trousers mind... Wink
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 06 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

R6jonny wrote:
gsxrmick wrote:
If it's chilly I wear a pair of trackie bottoms under mine. The only trouble is I need the missus to stick her hand up my leg and pull them down as they ride up when putting the leathers on.


You need to tuck your trackies into your socks before you try and put your leathers on!! make sure they are socks with decent elastic!


I hate that, it's a bit of an art form, I also spend a good five minutes choosing a decent pair of socks that will hold... Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 06 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't be able to - leathers fit too well.
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 06 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I get a chance, and if I can be bothered I will try and remember to post up some pictures of injuries caused by wearing jeans under leathers, not a pretty sight! Shocked

Not only does it cause problems in the event of an off, it will stretch your leather thereby preventing them affording proper splint protection if a limb gets broken, and it can prevent restricting blood flow which is something that can also be important. And this is before you start talking about the burns caused by the jeans under leather created by the additional friction, the twisting of the limps as the baggy leather snags which then snags again as the jeans then catch, do I need to go on?

Leathers were designed and intended to be worn over nothing more than thin long johns at the most, not thick denim
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 06 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If I get a chance, and if I can be bothered I will try and remember to post up some pictures of injuries caused by wearing jeans under leathers, not a pretty sight! Shocked

Not only does it cause problems in the event of an off, it will stretch your leather thereby preventing them affording proper splint protection if a limb gets broken, and it can prevent restricting blood flow which is something that can also be important. And this is before you start talking about the burns caused by the jeans under leather created by the additional friction, the twisting of the limps as the baggy leather snags which then snags again as the jeans then catch, do I need to go on?

Leathers were designed and intended to be worn over nothing more than thin long johns at the most, not thick denim


Crikey, that's me leaving 5 minutes earlier for work on Monday to get changed in the bog :O
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 06 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

T.C wrote:
If I get a chance, and if I can be bothered I will try and remember to post up some pictures of injuries caused by wearing jeans under leathers, not a pretty sight! Shocked

Not only does it cause problems in the event of an off, it will stretch your leather thereby preventing them affording proper splint protection if a limb gets broken, and it can prevent restricting blood flow which is something that can also be important. And this is before you start talking about the burns caused by the jeans under leather created by the additional friction, the twisting of the limps as the baggy leather snags which then snags again as the jeans then catch, do I need to go on?

Leathers were designed and intended to be worn over nothing more than thin long johns at the most, not thick denim


I guess I will be going commando then Shocked
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 06 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

when I was 1st on L plates (c 1981) I had a set of leathers that I could wear over jeans / t-shirt & jumper and ride in the winter all nice & warm. I still have the leathers but now cannot get into them even going comando.

session in the gym called for I think Sad
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 06 Jun 2008    Post subject: Re: Jeans under leathers Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
Does anyone else do this? And could it cause problems in an off?


Rarely jeans although I wear my work trousers under mine quite regularly. I've come off a couple of times and never had a problem, then again I came off at 30 wearing a tee shirt and my only injury was a burn off the exhaust.
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 06 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wear work trousers under textiles, and remove them each morning outside before work to stow in my top box.
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 06 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wear long johns and a long sleeve/turtle neck cotton top under my gear, as it lets your skin breath more easily. Stops the leatherrs sticking to you when you try to take 'em off, and is more comfy than the lining. Lol. Never knew jeans under leathers were dangerous though... Shocked
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 06 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

dangerous is pushing it a bit, they will still be safer than textiles, just not as good as leather next to skin

sometimes concessions in safety for convenience are allowed

after all thats why it takes me only 30 mins to get to work by scooter instead of the 1 hour or more it would take by car
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 06 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wear an Aldi 2pc undersuit and/or a Fleece liner from a Drysuit under my leathers. It's about all I can get on under them.

A good tip is to put the trousers/feet part of the undersuit in the trousers of the leathers. It stops them riding up when you put the leathers on.
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 06 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
dangerous is pushing it a bit, they will still be safer than textiles, just not as good as leather next to skin

sometimes concessions in safety for convenience are allowed



You are joking right? Dangerous is the exact right word, and to say it is safer than wearing textiles, what planet do you come from? Rolling Eyes

Tell the people that have learnt the hard and painful way that it is not dangerous. No way on earth is wearing jeans under leathers safer than wearing textiles Middle Finger
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PostPosted: 07:04 - 07 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeans under leathers???

Are you mad??

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PostPosted: 12:15 - 07 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to wear jeans under leathers, only for short distances though as they tended to get a bit tight and uncomfortable with it rubbing so close.
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PostPosted: 13:04 - 07 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

My leathers are WAY too tight to get anything other then boxers under them, And thats the way it sould be, If they are too baggy they dont slide, they tend to grip the road and make you roll which can usase dislocations and broken arms and ribs. You may think that cause its thicker overall it would be safer, Afraid not, they are specifically designed to be tight to skin and nothing more then underwear ad a T shirt under.

As for commuting, I'm getting myself a pair of those Kevlar jeans, They basically are a pair of thick jeans and sown on the inside on the hips bum and knees is kevlar type materal stuff...not sure how to phrase that, but ofc they dont offer any impact protection but they will slide, there also designed to be tight fitting on the legs and hip for the same reason as the leathers, to make you slide not roll in the event you fall off it.
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 07 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

T.C wrote:
Dangerous is the exact right word, and to say it is safer than wearing textiles, what planet do you come from? Rolling Eyes


TC... What specifically are these problems you mention about wearing jeans under leathers? Aside from your points about fit, why dangerous?
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 07 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

T.C wrote:
colin1 wrote:
dangerous is pushing it a bit, they will still be safer than textiles, just not as good as leather next to skin

sometimes concessions in safety for convenience are allowed



You are joking right? Dangerous is the exact right word, and to say it is safer than wearing textiles, what planet do you come from? Rolling Eyes

Tell the people that have learnt the hard and painful way that it is not dangerous. No way on earth is wearing jeans under leathers safer than wearing textiles Middle Finger


people say that leathers give best protection when they are a tight fit and that makes sense

if leathers are as loose as textiles, they are going to be no worse than textiles, as they will behave the same way

i know you are very well qualified with loads of experience, but sometimes i think your logic is flawed

whether something is more dangerous than something else is relative not absolute

one thing is safer than another, and one thing is more dangerous than another

but saying one thing is safe and another thing is dangerous, when its not a huge difference between the too, is a bit misleading in my (less qualified ) opinion
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 07 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

fight.....fight.....fight....fight..... Laughing

Can I just ask, why are textiles soooooo bad in comparison to leathers? Serious. I know everyone says leathers are the best, but why? I havent had an off yet (shit, shouldnt have written that, but even the backspace key wont stop fate now!!) so am no god on this subject, but is there actual proof that textiles are a poor 2nd on this. I know its man made, but fuck me they glue wings onto jumbo jets so surely we men must do something right. And yes, I wear textiles, and jeans underneath as its practical for commuting. But I actually prefer textiles so would like to know.
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 07 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

i also wear textiles for commuting

its possible for some leathers to be worse than textiles, but generally properly fitting leathers are better in a few ways

1. they offer better abrasion resistance against the road

2 if they are a tight fit, less movement between skin and the clothing, will mean less abrasion on skin

3 they will hold limbs in place so if anything breaks it wont get too out of line

so in my opinon, loose fitting leathers will lose 2 and 3, but they will still have 1,

a loose fit leather pair of jeans is going to behave a lot like a loose fit cordura pair of jeans

the abrasion resistance of cordura is fine for speeds of 40mph i suspect its pretty good up to about 60mph but above that id prefer leather

a good compromise is the comfort of loose textiles, with leather on the contact patches that will hit the road, like bum and knees

however T.C. is a fully qualified crash investigator or something who is qualified to give evidence in court, so if he could be arsed to explain why I am wrong rather than giving a Middle Finger we may all learn something new

he tends to prefer us to just take his word as gospel

even if he doesnt explain why he is right, he may be, but i dont think so
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