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PostPosted: 14:17 - 18 Jun 2008    Post subject: almost binned it Reply with quote

Ok, so im coming into a small village. Parked cars and driving cars all mixed up. Im following a ford focus and 2 other cars pull into gaps to let us pass. As we are going through, he jams his brakes on for no apparent reason and because im accelrating (50cc) trying to keep up, I have to brake really hard and my front wheel locks and I almost go into a car by the side of the road.

I was about 1 car length behind him when this happened and as soon as he had stopped, he started again as there was no problem.

Just wondering should I have spoken to him etc etc or should I just take it as everyday biking stuff?
Kind of new lol

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PostPosted: 14:21 - 18 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

he may have seen a hazard that you could not, with him being further up the road, his breaking may have been pre-emptive of a hazard or because of a developing hazard, or he/she may have just been a crap driver. always drive like everyone else is an idiot and leave yourself room to manoeuvre.
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 18 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 car length seems a bit close tbh so I'd just take it as a lesson learned.
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 18 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Giev yourself a bit more room next time, they might have been driving shit but anything could make someone brake like that
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 18 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

id been following the car for about 3 miles and he was dead slow, wanted to overtake but didn't get a decent oppurtunity.

I was that close because other cars were waiting and I didn't want to have to stop and start again.

He was the sort of driver that when he was on a main road (60mph limit) he was going 40 and every time he went over 40, he braked which is ok for safety by this was for 3 miles and for him to just brake like that seemed a bit wank.

Next time ill stay back a bit. I think you can tell what some people are like by the way they drive.
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 18 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you ever decied to tailgate again always do it near the corner of a car. If they slam their brakes on and you don't have time to stop you can always swerve and ride past them. Better than having a collision.

Best thing to do is not tailgate though Very Happy
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 18 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Overtake a car on a 50? Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 18 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Nice Guy wrote:
Overtake a car on a 50? Laughing


It is possible Razz
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 18 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

White lights on the BACK of the car mean reverse is engaged Razz
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 18 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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id been following the car for about 3 miles and he was dead slow, wanted to overtake but didn't get a decent oppurtunity.


Another one saying you were to close. You were looking for a chance not an oppourtunity. Avoid chances plan for oppourtunities.

Mind you we have all done it, live and learn.

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PostPosted: 18:35 - 18 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could have overtaken him twice but decided not to because it was not safe in my opinion.

I wasn't tailgating in the sense you are thinking of, it was just for the few seconds while I tried to get through the little gap.

Like you say, live and learn.
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 18 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You were too close. Do a search on here for "tailgating".

Many drivers (and riders) will put their brakes on as a warning if they feel the vehicle behind is too close. I've even done it myself on occasion.

Take it as a lesson learned, and leave a bit more space next time. At least you are OK. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 18 Jun 2008    Post subject: Re: almost binned it Reply with quote

allymoss wrote:
Ok, so im coming into a small village. Parked cars and driving cars all mixed up. Im following a ford focus and 2 other cars pull into gaps to let us pass. As we are going through, he jams his brakes on for no apparent reason and because im accelrating (50cc) trying to keep up, I have to brake really hard and my front wheel locks and I almost go into a car by the side of the road.

I was about 1 car length behind him when this happened and as soon as he had stopped, he started again as there was no problem.

Just wondering should I have spoken to him etc etc or should I just take it as everyday biking stuff?
Kind of new lol

Thanks


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PostPosted: 19:38 - 18 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

allymoss wrote:
I could have overtaken him twice but decided not to because it was not safe in my opinion.

I wasn't tailgating in the sense you are thinking of, it was just for the few seconds while I tried to get through the little gap.

Like you say, live and learn.


It does seem like you are learning.

At the start of this thread you were thinking it was maybe the car drivers fault, but now you are realising that it is your responsiblity to maintain a gap that you can stop in.

I know that on a low powered bike, it must be tempting to get close to do an overtake, and some people can do this without getting sudden surprises as they anticipate the behaviour of the car in front. However that requires quite a lot of skill and experience.

The better plan for you, is to stay at a safe distance, and just accept that it's rare that overtaking on a 50cc is a good idea.

Yes you could go faster if you were in front of him, but chill out and relax and just follow at his pace.

There is something call the 2 second rule. Watch a lampost or something as it passes the rear of the vehicle in front. It should take 2 seconds to get to you. If you keep this distance you can stop safely, but if someone is tailgating you, or its raining, try keeping a 4 second gap.
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 19 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

CHR15 wrote:
shouldnt you lean about tailgating and related things when you do your cbt?


You do because they tell you in the earpiece if you are too close to the car in front.
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PostPosted: 09:38 - 19 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

babyyam wrote:
You were too close. Do a search on here for "tailgating".

Many drivers (and riders) will put their brakes on as a warning if they feel the vehicle behind is too close. I've even done it myself on occasion.

Take it as a lesson learned, and leave a bit more space next time. At least you are OK. Thumbs Up


There is a difference between engaging the brake light and slamming on the brakes to make vehicles behind back off... Personally, I favour tearing off at speed, although I understand you might not be able to do this on a 50... It is true though, if you do go into the back of someone, it's probably going to be your fault.

Someone went in to the back of me yesterday morning, it was definitely my fault though as he was stationary and I reversed into him. Ooops. Embarassed

Thumbs Up for the 2 second rule. "Only a fool ignores the two second rule"

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PostPosted: 10:12 - 19 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

pa_broon74 wrote:
Thumbs Up for the 2 second rule. "Only a fool ignores the two second rule"

Thumbs Up


I used to ignore it on my scooter but now I'm riding my RX-S it's like religion. The brakes are just so poor I have no confidence in them Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 19 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

pa_broon74 wrote:

Thumbs Up for the 2 second rule. "Only a fool ignores the two second rule"

Thumbs Up


Or, the alternate version:

'Only a cunt hits the car in front'.

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PostPosted: 13:28 - 19 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

When it's dry - "Only a fool breaks the two second rule."

When it's wet - "Only a fool breaks the two second rule, but there's been some rain so I'll say it again."


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PostPosted: 14:06 - 19 Jun 2008    Post subject: Re: almost binned it Reply with quote

bazza wrote:


Almost GAF.


GAF?
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 19 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive been watching a lot closer now as I don't want anything like it to happen although its bound to, the one time you just edge a bit too close.

I find 2 seconds at 40-50mph not long enough so im gonna say 3 Very Happy
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 19 Jun 2008    Post subject: Re: almost binned it Reply with quote

Moonie wrote:
GAF?


Acronym.

HTH.
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 19 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

No it didn't you sarcy bastard what does it stand for? Razz
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PostPosted: 08:14 - 20 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moonie wrote:
No it didn't you sarcy bastard what does it stand for? Razz


It stands for JFGI.
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