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doggone
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 19 Jun 2008    Post subject: Death while not obeying the law on public roads? Reply with quote

[edit=g]This thread was split from a report of a biker who went into a tank slapper after landing a wheelie harshly to avoid a pedestrian and died in the resulting accident.
There are some valid discussions (hidden amongst all the flaming) to be had, so these were moved here.[/edit]

Not a good idea to show off past a busy pub is it.
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 19 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
Not a good idea to show off past a busy pub is it.


No point doing it past an empty pub because no one will see it Wink
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 19 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be devastating to those left behind.

However, it's just another example of how bikers can be complete tits, and then bikers complain when others treat them as complete tits and are surprised when the powers that be want to clamp down on people riding bikes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 19 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

The mess resembled a gixer, standard blue and white,didn't have a close look, kept my distance.

There was a sad vibe around the place and then the landlady asked us to leave as the police had asked them to close the pub.

Only descent thing to do realy.

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PostPosted: 22:58 - 19 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edited for respect.

RIP.


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PostPosted: 23:10 - 19 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
Not a good idea to show off past a busy pub is it.

Not a good idea to walk out infront of a vehicle doing some speed, never mind one on one wheel.

The pedestrian was lucky it was a bike not a speeding car, but I doubt anyone will consider that.

I suspect a 'decent' thing to do for the biker would be to get a load more people out doing wheelies - I certainly wouldn't want to spoil other people's fun because I messed.
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 20 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would've been there at the time but i was late leaving the house after fitting a new tyre. Left for a late bimble and quick pint at about 9pm. The roads were closed off and the police were diverting traffic down the rabbit runs.

Gutted to hear about any biker getting killed. And reading about what actually happened on the forum drives the reality home of what happened as now I can actually picture it happening (which aint so great).

For those of you who don't know stormy petrel is a bike meet at Tern Hill in Shropshire and on a good night there you can get several hundred bikes over the course of an evening.

Most people tend to gather on the pub car park. There tends to be the odd person doing rolling burnouts, wheelies, stoppies directly outside the pub. People on both sides of the road watching the fun and games.

Trouble is, its a busy rd and the majority of motorists seem a little less amused by it all. Only takes something like this for the powers that be to close something like this down. Lets hope they dont and we can carry on enjoying what little freedoms we have left.
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PostPosted: 01:48 - 20 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

RIP Biker.

Don't think we should discuss whether he was in the wrong as it's not going to change it. Respects to the family.
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PostPosted: 06:30 - 20 Jun 2008    Post subject: Re: RIP Biker at Stormy Petrel tonight! Reply with quote

vfr800 wrote:

RIP Dude Sad


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PostPosted: 07:58 - 20 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
To be fair the first time I went there was someone biffing up and down the road on a brand new R1 on the back wheel


Hardly crime of the century and the rider paid a harsh penalty for the stunt going wrong. Sometimes our risky pastime goes wrong leaving our fate in the lap of the gods. Can't see why people are getting a bit spiteful about it really.

I was at the BoxHill meet when the wheelie went into the crowd. I remember a lot on here bemoaning the same things although a lot admitted that they were happy to stand in a dangerous position to watch. You can't have it both ways..
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 20 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some may say the guy who walked out was to blame, some may say the guy on the bike.

I would say the guy on the bike is at fault
You dont need a licence to walk around the place, we pass our test and get our papers to show we are compitent and able enough to spot hazards like this*, And if the guy hadnt been on one wheel the tank slapper wouldnt have happend and he was probably speeding aswell. Also doing all of this when something is clearly coming the other way. and if he wasnt able to see the oncoming trafic then thats even worse as there must have been a corner.

Its the bikers fault enitrely for putting himself in that position, but I wouldnt say he deserved to die, unfortunatley you dont generally get a 2nd chance on a bike when something like this happens, this guy didnt live to think 'jeez that was close', we all just have to look at what others have done and learn form their mistakes, Its too late for this chap but maybe some people on here may think twise before trying this kind of thing on a busy road.
and as allways with stunts like this. If it does go wrong you may never get annother try at it.

(* additionally its not against the law to step out into trafic, unless its a motorway, Trafic must allways give way to pedestrians. I strongley support a law simmaler to US law that crossing an A road other then at a crossing is illegal. Maybe there would be less accidents wrongley attriubted to the dirver when it was the pedestrian being a retard)
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 20 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
Not a good idea to show off past a busy pub is it.


Its not a good idea to ride a bike either but we all do it.
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 20 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Random biker in "Ride like a cunt, die like a cunt" non-shocker.

Ban bikes.

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PostPosted: 14:31 - 20 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://forum.oldskoolsuzuki.info/yabb/Attachments/DSC02120.JPG
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 20 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fnatic wrote:
https://forum.oldskoolsuzuki.info/yabb/Attachments/DSC02120.JPG


I heard there was more morons like yourself up their taking pics of the body and the bike...

people should have more respect rather than crowding round and taking pictures!!!



this is the only week I didn't go up there since buying my new bike, it's normally me and 2 other Gixerjunkies that are doing exactly what the bloke who died was doing, the crowds gather round quite close, it's their choice to watch it and our choice to do the wheelies..

I too hoinked a wheelie coming up the bank, only for an R1 to pull out from the pub car park but going the same way as me, I landed it in time and went round him fortunately.

no doubt it will start to get heavily policed again.
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 20 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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people should have more respect rather than crowding round and taking pictures!!!


He was showing off so got the attention he craved. Just not quite the way he planned.
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 20 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe wrote:
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people should have more respect rather than crowding round and taking pictures!!!


He was showing off so got the attention he craved. Just not quite the way he planned.

granted, that's the reason I do it.

but when somebody's lying their dying or already dead you should be more respectful than get your camera phone out and start taking pictures of him.
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 20 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

lllN30lll wrote:
but when somebody's lying their dying or already dead you should be more respectful than get your camera phone out and start taking pictures of him.


I agree that is poor taste but you reap what you sow.

Terrible shame that someone should die like that but we're all responsible for ourselves and sometimes stuff goes wrong.

RIP wheelie dude.
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 20 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

B_A_B wrote:
No comment.. Rolling Eyes
You can probably work out what i`m thinking anyway and i can do without another session of name calling so i`ll keep schtum.
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If you truely wanted to keep quiet then you wouldn't have posted. Rolling Eyes

It's[edit].not[/edit] very cool when someone dies regardless of the circumstances


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PostPosted: 16:51 - 20 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
It's very cool when someone dies regardless of the circumstances.



Eh?

RIP wheelie dude.
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 20 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
...It's very cool when someone dies regardless of the circumstances.

Shocked Eh? Eh! what planet are you on to come out with a comment like that? Sick
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 20 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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no doubt it will start to get heavily policed again.

To me it seems unlikely that someone who lists their bike as a 'Sachs speedforce 50', also posts on the olkskool suzuki forum with some streetfightered GSXR1100, maybe he just linked to the pic Smile.

Also, note that the person who took it before he knew the outcome.

Not sure it shows much dis-respect taking a pic of a bit-knackered bike, really.
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 20 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

lllN30lll wrote:

I heard there was more morons like yourself up their taking pics of the body and the bike...

people should have more respect rather than crowding round and taking pictures!!!




fnatic didn't take the picture did he? He just copied it from another forum.

No matter what happens in an accident, there will always be someone around to take pictures.

sorry to hear about the death of another biker. He might have been performing stunts, but certainly didn't deserve to die.

RIP to the guy and condolences to his family & friends.
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 20 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
Big_Ham wrote:
...It's very cool when someone dies regardless of the circumstances.

Shocked Eh? Eh! what planet are you on to come out with a comment like that? Sick


Pretty sure there's a 'not' missing there. If Luke'd posted that then fine, but BH gets the benefit of the doubt.
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