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Fisty
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 11 Jul 2008    Post subject: London congestion charge WTF? UPDATE! WINNER!!!! Reply with quote

Erm I have just had a bill through my door from some nice people in london. Seems i owe some money for travelling through their fair city.

Trouble is, A Ive never been there on this motorbike and B I didnt think bikes got charged.

It seems as though someone has copied my numberplate.

*awaits numerous speeding tickets and parking fines*

How the fook do I sort this out??????

EDIT:- My V5 has only just come back from the DVLA (8 weeks for an adress change) I wonder if this has anything to do with it?
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 11 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

0845 900 1234. Call this number to get hold of tfl/congestion charging and see what the score is.

Then contact the Police and possibly DVLA.

Edit: Dont bother calling that number, apparently "Please note Representations against Penalty Charge Notices cannot be accepted by phone or fax."


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PostPosted: 11:09 - 11 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like someone's copied your plates and is having a jolly at your expense.

Make sure you report it. It happened to me on my car and they used the plates on their car to go and commit bloody armed robbery!
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 11 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no charge for bikes.
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 11 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Reuben, just saw that number on the letter! On the dog and bone now will let you know the outcome.
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 11 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok that number was for payment stuff. lol dont really want to pay .

Got another number to call now!
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 11 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right after 2 1/4 hours on the phone the results are thus:-

Arrow Ive got to send an appeal in writing to the congestion charge people.

Arrow The police are not interested whatsoever as no crime has yet taken place, it coult be " a simple mistake"

In the mean time im guilty untill i prove myself inncent!

what an utter bunch of arse.
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 11 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do they not have to supply photographic evidence or do we just take their word for it? Confused
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 11 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

gsxrmick wrote:
Do they not have to supply photographic evidence or do we just take their word for it? Confused


thats the very first thing i would be asking for. same as a speeding ticket. where is the evidence?
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 11 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive asked for it, untill I send in an apeal they wont send it me.
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PostPosted: 16:12 - 11 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is another one of those stories that makes my blood boil Twisted Evil

Why should it be on you to prove that you are innocent - all you should do is simply phone them up and tell them to contact the DVLA and see whether their records match the vehicle that went through the congestion zone!

These people that run these systems should remember they are civil servants - serving us, the general public - not the other bloody way round!! Grrrrr!!!! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 11 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's only in criminal law you are innocent until proven guilty. In many other aspects of the law the opposite is true. In health&safety law for example you must prove you didn't do something wrong, and you do not have the right to remain silent in a HSE interview either.
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 11 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr_fisty wrote:
Ive asked for it, untill I send in an apeal they wont send it me.


can you prove it wasnt you? as in is your bike on CCTV elsewhere at any of the time/dates they have given? if it is i wouldnt bother. i would phone them saying i wasnt there and i can prove it. bye!

let them do the running around. thats what they are paid for and they are well aware of the cloning problem that they have created with the automated bollocks system
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 11 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

When i got fined the other year (forgot to pay and back then they wouldn't let you pay the next day) they sent a photo with the fine.
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 11 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bikes are exempt from congestion charge, more than likely it'll be a car in the photo/cctv. Either way all its all a load of sweaty bollocks, sounds like a pretty open and shut case to me filled with unneccesary paperwork.
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 11 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just send them a photocopy of your bike's log book with a note to f*ck off Smile
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 11 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd ignore it then wait for them to send a fine and then proceed to let them take you to court, get a good lawyer in the mean time.

Make them look stupid and get some money out of them for costs and wasting your time, note down all travel costs and every phonecall/stamp you use so you can reclaim it. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 06:37 - 12 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

cagiva gezzer wrote:
When i got fined the other year (forgot to pay and back then they wouldn't let you pay the next day) they sent a photo with the fine.


This isnt a fine ( yet ) just the bill. The fine comes after not paying the bill.

with any luck its a simple mistake, im just praying that someone hasnt got my plates on their car. I dont want the hassle.
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 12 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got sent a fine a year or so ago for being caught on camera using a bus lane near newcastle, like 200 miles from me. The picture on the letter didnt even show a bike just a car Confused Rang them up complaining apprantly someone screwed up and took the registration number down wrong, still waiting for my letter of apology Middle Finger
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well its taken a few months but its finally sorted.

The picture they sent me was of a ford escort with my plate on it! I sent a letter stating the numberplate in question was regestered to a motorbike and not a car.

They replied saying that they had reviewed the case and that the fine still stood and had gone up as I hadnt paid in time.

One letter from my solicitor later and i get a grovelling apology from the CONgestion charge people!

What a bunch of twats they are.
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 15:41 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr_fisty wrote:
One letter from my solicitor later and i get a grovelling apology from the CONgestion charge people!

I hope you're billing the CC people for the solicitor's fees as well as your time and postage, etc. Grovelling apology is not enough, as they would have seen immediately from the DVLA records that they used to find you that the registration number was for a bike, not a Ford Escort. Their fault and incompetence, and you should not have had to resort to a solicitor to get the fine waived.
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have paid for a solicitor and not been re embursed your an utter twunt and deserve to be cloned Shocked should have let it run its course and then in court show the beak the proof and any/all expenses ,HE would then have made an ORDER for you to be paid
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They replied saying that they had reviewed the case and that the fine still stood and had gone up as I hadnt paid in time.


This is symptomatic of bureaucracy in this country - they've sent out a standard response saying they've reviewed it when plainly they haven't because it's an open & shut case that they are wrong.

The idea being that a good percentage of victims will just pay up after a token fight.
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

garyd wrote:
If you have paid for a solicitor and not been re embursed your an utter twunt and deserve to be cloned Shocked should have let it run its course and then in court show the beak the proof and any/all expenses ,HE would then have made an ORDER for you to be paid


Thank you for that constructive input.
I wanted it done ASAP as I didnt want to have to go all the way to london, taking a day off work, petrol costs etc etc for a 3 minute court case. And yes I am being reimbursed thanks.

And why do I deserve to be cloned???
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