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Wil
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PostPosted: 11:04 - 14 Jul 2008    Post subject: How much protection? Reply with quote

I'd like a bit of advice on clothing, if I may...

At the moment, clothing wise, I wear a lid (obviously), leather summer gloves (triumph), a non descript armoured textile jacket, normal jeans and some german para boots. I've got some cheap waterproof over trousers which I don't forsee lasting 5 minutes too.

I'm going to be commuting down 20 miles of motorway every day to work in all weathers when my bike is fixed, to work in an office. What gear should I be looking at, considering I'll be dressed in office clobber underneath. I'm conscious at the moment that while my clothing should be fine for a trip to the shops, its probably not going to help me much if (god forbid) I come off at motorway speeds.

Should I be looking at leathers, or is it impossible to wear office clothes underneath?
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 14 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find that in hot weather the best plan is not to wear the office clothes. I wear technical long-sleeved T-shirts under my jacket instead. Then my shirt is nice and fresh to put on at the office.
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 14 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with njd27, in hot weather wearing anything more than shorts and t-shirt just results in sweaty clothes, much better off sticking the shirt etc in a bag and changing at work Thumbs Up

cant really help on the kit as im only using cheap stuff myself

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PostPosted: 12:20 - 14 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

id get yourself a 2 piece textiles kit and a back protector.
Then just bung all your office clothes in a bag and change at work.
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 14 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are textiles going to offer enough protection at motorway speeds? I do prefer them from a practical point of view, especially if they're waterproof...
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 14 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

abrasion wise you should be fine in textiles as long as your not doing really silly speeds, the advantage of (properly fitting) leathers is that you tend to slide rather than roll meaning less chance of broken bones and dislocations.

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PostPosted: 12:33 - 14 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wil wrote:
Are textiles going to offer enough protection at motorway speeds? I do prefer them from a practical point of view, especially if they're waterproof...


You need to consider what the actual types of accidents you are likely to have are.

One advantage of leather vs textile is better abrasion resistance, yes. But you are unlikely to actually come off the bike at 80mph.

A much more common accident would be whilst filtering at 20-30mph. So long as you have armoured extremities you are probably doing as well as you are able.

If you are run over by a lorry, leathers are not going to save you.

Plus if you are soaked your are going to get cold and miserable and your reaction times will suffer.

I would look into getting some decent boots though - something with some decent armour/reinforcement in and also waterproof.
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 14 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, textiles and some proper bike boots it is then. Thanks everyone! Smile
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 14 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

on the subject of boots i can recommend sidi vertigos i find them very comfortble and theres tons of protection all around the boot Thumbs Up also despite not being labled as waterproof they're yet to leak on me and ive ridden through some pretty nasty rain.

Can also recommend sidi black rains which my dad has used for 3 or 4 years now and they're still going strong even after an off, £70 well spent me thinks Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 12:58 - 14 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back protector too

honestly, they have save many peoples lives. I wouldnt do a 20miles journey without mine.

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PostPosted: 13:21 - 14 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wil wrote:
Are textiles going to offer enough protection at motorway speeds? I do prefer them from a practical point of view, especially if they're waterproof...


My textiles (Frank Thomas Aqua force Jacket & trousers) were fine for commuting in. I just took out the extra thermal layer and chucked the fabrics on over my work clobber. Did me fine in my big smash at the start of the year, no road rash or torn protective gear and everything was fine bar the snapped thigh.. Smile

I wear my leathers to the office now as it's the only gear I have and it's much more of a faff in the mornings getting changed. In the fabrics I could just walk up to my desk, dump the lid and gloves and peel off the gear there and then. Pop my shoes on and ready for work.. Smile

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PostPosted: 14:17 - 14 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
on the subject of boots i can recommend sidi vertigos i find them very comfortble and theres tons of protection all around the boot Thumbs Up also despite not being labled as waterproof they're yet to leak on me and ive ridden through some pretty nasty rain.

Can also recommend sidi black rains which my dad has used for 3 or 4 years now and they're still going strong even after an off, £70 well spent me thinks Thumbs Up

c_dug


do they have steel toe caps? sounds like a daft question but i need steelies for work and i dont fancy wearing one pair of boots and carrying another pair when i have all the other gear i need to cart around. i dont wear clothes that need ironing so chucking leathers on wouldnt bother me
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 14 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steel toe caps are actually a pretty bad idea on the bike. If you get in a impact where the boot receives a blow from underneath, the toe cap can pivot around and cut off your toes Shocked
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 14 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

njd27 wrote:
Steel toe caps are actually a pretty bad idea on the bike. If you get in a impact where the boot receives a blow from underneath, the toe cap can pivot around and cut off your toes Shocked



Which If you were wearing any other boots, proper bike boots included, your foot would be pretty f*cked anyway from an impact hard enough to do that to toecaps, so that's a bit of a moot point.



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PostPosted: 17:42 - 14 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dam0n wrote:
Back protector too

honestly, they have save many peoples lives. I wouldnt do a 20miles journey without mine.

My 2p


If you're talking about the hard shell ones, they have also killed people!
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 15 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

njd27 wrote:
Steel toe caps are actually a pretty bad idea on the bike. If you get in a impact where the boot receives a blow from underneath, the toe cap can pivot around and cut off your toes Shocked


On my CBT yesterday the instructor said if your stopped in traffic and put your foot down and a bus runs it over etc, its going to cut your toes off.

Also, they are usually quite tall from the sole to the top of the 'toe' with very little feel, so it can be a bit trickier to change gear.
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