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karidian
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 19 Jul 2008    Post subject: WTF: should have been jail Reply with quote

School teacher rams a biker at least 3 times cos "hes in a hurry"and gets off with a ban and a fine? F****r should have got jail. just as well the guy was an experienced rider or we could be hearing about a fatality.
WTF is the law coming to when this sort of sh*t is allowed to happen?
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 19 Jul 2008    Post subject: Re: WTF: should have been jail Reply with quote

karidian wrote:
School teacher rams a biker at least 3 times cos "hes in a hurry"and gets off with a ban and a fine? F****r should have got jail. just as well the guy was an experienced rider or we could be hearing about a fatality.
WTF is the law coming to when this sort of sh*t is allowed to happen?
One rule for bikers one for cagers (as if we didnt know)


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PostPosted: 21:09 - 19 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

linky and it's on visordown.
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 19 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think they might be exaggerating a bit...

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Company director Mr Hill used his 43 years' experience of riADVERTISEMENTding to stop his machine wobbling out of control, the jury was told.


and then (not sure what riADVERTISEMENTding is though Laughing )

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Mr Hill, who was travelling at between 10 and 20mph, did not realise his bike had been struck and thought he may have driven over something in the road.


sure it was a shit thing to do, and the guy should have used the armoured gloves to his advantage, but i think its being made out to be more dangerous than it actually was.

thats press for you.
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 19 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsprattuk wrote:
(not sure what riADVERTISEMENTding is though Laughing )

That's your rubbish ad blocker at work.
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sure it was a shit thing to do, and the guy should have used the armoured gloves to his advantage, but i think its being made out to be more dangerous than it actually was.

Eh? He rammed a biker three times at speeds of up to 20mph in rush hour traffic, and you don't think it's serious? All that had to happen is for the biker to fall in front of a passing truck and quite likely he'd be an ex-biker.
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PostPosted: 06:52 - 20 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry but lets be honest about this, after the first impact the next one would have been my fist going through his window to pull him out of his car as he simply doesn't have the mentallity to drive it.

From a legal point of view, I'm sure that if this is his first offence then he would not have faced jail as no-one was actually hurt. However I think it could be construde that he was attempting assault or even murder as it was pre-meditated, but it's proving that his intention was to hurt the rider rather than to intimidate him so he would move over.
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 20 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paivi wrote:

Eh? He rammed a biker three times at speeds of up to 20mph in rush hour traffic, and you don't think it's serious? All that had to happen is for the biker to fall in front of a passing truck and quite likely he'd be an ex-biker.


I think the point is, being hit in such a way that you dont realise you've been hit, especially when your riding slowly isn't really being 'rammed' but it is undoubtedly a remarkably shitty thing to do, which could easily of had much worse consequences.
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 21 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

and to top it all what car was he driving?


....a Volvo! Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:14 - 22 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have followed him till he stopped and made sure he never walked let alone drove again.
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PostPosted: 07:40 - 22 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but was fined £1,000 with £750 costs and banned for a year. He will also have to take an extended driving test when his ban ends.


Seems pretty fair punishment.
If the biker did not realise that he had been hit it can only have been a light tap.

Just wonder why the biker was not filtering at the time, as it would never have happened then..... Perhaps thats the point the car driver was trying to make Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 22 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
I would have followed him till he stopped and made sure he never walked let alone drove again.

Then the cop behind would have probably got you put in prison for a /long/ time, and the bloke in his (paid for by the government and adapted) car would be sure to finish the job next time - as would quite a lot of other people when they saw a biker on the roads after seeing those 'evil biker' headlines in a tabloid, probably.
Not the result I'd be looking for.
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 23 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he'd have killed the rider then he'd be looking at a year, maybe two. If he'd just crippled him then two to three for the inconvience to the State.

As it caused no material damage or inconvienience to the state or insurance companies then there is no real crime as far as the state is concerned.

A year ban isn't a bad result to be honest.
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 23 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't get the link to the full story to work but with a £1000 fine, I presume he was done for Dangerous Driving rather than Driving without Due Care.

Dangerous Driving is a criminal offence, that give him a criminal record. He's a teacher. This could well cause him some difficulties in the future because he'd have to inform potential employers he has a criminal conviction (not sure how long for). School boards don't really go for employing criminal teachers.

Not to mention the utter raping he'll get if he ever wants to insure a vehicle on the road again.
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 25 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

The car driver needs jailing. The bottom line is he had no idea what experience that rider had when he "tapped" him. His actions were likely to attribute to the rider losing control. Being in a rush is not a defence to put someone's life in jeopardy and let's face it any impact by a car on a motorbike puts the rider in serious danger.

If the driver was in a rush then he should have "fu...SWEAR WORD" got up earlier. It makes me mad this, I don't care how small a tap it was, it SHOULD not be happening and is typical of the kind of attitudes I am seeing on the roads during rush hour.

It makes me hopping mad Embarassed
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PostPosted: 07:59 - 26 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly what i thought Jacob. I see what other folk are saying and i can accept their points of view, but im thinking more along the lines of what could have happened rather than what did!
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 26 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

if we started locking people up for what could have happened though it is a seriously slippery slope of convictions
While speeding a car swerves to avoid a kid that steps out into the road, loses control and crashes into a wall.
No one is hurt
Should the car driver be locked up for what could have happened if they hit the kid?

If you pull out of a junction without looking should u get prosecuted for what could have happened if a car was on the road you joined?



No one got hurt, chap has lost his license, with a criminal record as a teacher he more than likely stands to lose his job, and like was said with a criminal record he is less likely to get another similar job in a hurry...
A few moments of red mist has likely messed up his life

He shouldnt have done it, bet he wont do it again...
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