1/3 of Muslim students back killing in the name of religion

[Ste]

Radical Islam gains ground in campuses

Poll attacked over claim that a third of Muslim students think killing in the name of religion is justified and 40 per cent support sharia law in the UK.

Almost third of Muslim students on Britain's campuses believe killing in the name of religion can be justified, according to a controversial survey described as the most comprehensive of its kind.

The poll, conducted for Islam on Campus, a new report from the Centre for Social Cohesion think-tank, also found that 40 per cent of those interviewed supported the introduction of sharia law for British Muslims.

But the findings have been fiercely attacked by student groups which described the poll's methodology as 'deeply flawed' and accused the report's authors of isolating Muslims.

The YouGov survey found that 32 per cent of Muslim students polled said killing in the name of religion was justified, compared to 2 per cent of non-Muslims. A third of those polled said they supported a worldwide Islamic caliphate, or government, and more than half - 54 per cent - supported the idea of having their own political party at Westminster. Just under a quarter did not believe men and women were equal in the eyes of Allah, while 25 per cent said they had little or no respect for homosexuals.

'These findings are deeply alarming,' said Hannah Stuart, the report's co-author. 'Students in higher education are the future leaders of their communities. Yet significant numbers of them appear to hold beliefs which contravene liberal democratic values.'

But the claims were met with a ferocious response from the National Union of Students. 'This is just another report by a biased, right-wing think-tank whose conclusions are drawn from an extremely limited number of students,' said Wes Streeting, president of the NUS. 'It is a wilful misrepresentation of the views of Muslim students designed to create as sensational a picture as possible. It can serve only to generate a climate of fear on campuses.'

Ed Husain, author of The Islamist and a former member of the radical group Hizb ut-Tahrir, which has been banned from most campuses, has claimed that universities are a fertile breeding ground for extremists.

In 2005, Professor Anthony Glees of Brunel University said that he had identified 'extremist and/or terror groups' at 30 universities. But his claims were largely dismissed by many academics and the NUS.

More recently, the government has published guidelines on combating Islamic extremism on university campuses. The higher education minister, Bill Rammell, said recently: 'There is evidence of serious, but not widespread, Islamist extremist activity in higher education institutions.'

In June, the government launched a series of roadshows at British universities aimed at countering the threat of campus radicalisation.

Stuart said that the report's findings showed there were signs of growing religious segregation on campuses. 'These results are deeply embarrassing for those who have said that there is no extremism in British universities.'

The report, based on a poll of 600 Muslims and 800 non-Muslims and which also drew on face-to-face interviews with representatives from leading student groups, also showed some members of Islamic societies held opinions that were significantly more extreme than those of non-members.

Douglas Murray, director of the Centre for Social Cohesion (CSC), said the findings showed that groups such as the Federation of Student Islamic Societies, which claims to represent the 90,000 Muslim students attending Britain's universities, could not claim to represent mainstream opinion.

'It is vital that students and government understand that groups like [the federation] - who represent a highly conservative interpretation of Islam - are not representative of all Muslim students,' Murray said. 'Empowering these groups risks giving an official stamp of approval to extreme forms of Islam.'

But Streeting disagreed. 'The CSC has an unhealthy obsession with Muslims and Islam,' he said. 'Muslim societies are the key to forging a culture of inclusivity and the way this report suggests that they are part of the problem is extremely damaging.'

The report also found that many non-Muslim students hold negative attitudes towards Islam. Half of the non-Muslim students polled believed Islam and western democracy were incompatible. More than three-quarters said they believed men and women were not considered equal in Islam.

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[Kris]

Sorry, which Muslim country are we about to invade this time then?


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[Itchy]

Well apparently Uranus is covered in petrol chemicals, must be some WMDs there.
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[thegubner]

This was in the daily express about a week ago I think.


Interesting.

[colin1]

80% of Britons may believe its ok to invade oil rich countries , or countries needed for an oil pipeline, on far fetched excuses like terrorist threat or 'rogue state'.

tony blair thinks that although he misled parliament on the reasons for invading iraq, it was actually a good thing in the end as it got rid of saddam

The fact that Iraq is now in near anarchy and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have died due to being invaded and having their country fucked up, is apparently just one of those things, and worth it as saddam was a 'bad man'.

Im more concerned about western populations acceptance of invading countries and killing people on the say so of power mad politicians, than idealistic students hoping to smash the system.

The power mad politicians really do have nukes, the idealistic students just wish they did.

When it comes to killing people, terrorists are just amateurs. The professionals such as generals and politicians, can ruin far more peoples day. They are the real bad guys.
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[bazza]

Time to get this bad boy rollin' again....

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[igiyf]

Colin is of sound mind-very rare thing to come across on these boards.

[Skudd]

The problem with these potential student terrorists are that they are doing what terrorist do best, Spread terror. It is not the actual act of blowing up a bus or a tube train but the terror threat it gives to the average man in the street. I am more scared of getting on a bus, tram or tube in this country than I am of India, Pakistan, Iran, China or any other government setting off a nuke or invading. That's how terror works, not the act as such but the possibility of it happening.
Unfortunately you have young Muslims who for a variety of reasons think it is cool, big, clever, hard, idealist to perpetuate this fear in order to gain status or so called respect from others.
people forget that it is Us, the west the so called tyrants, who helped the Muslims in Yugoslavia ( now split up) we helped stop the ethnic cleansing of the Muslims, we are putting on trial the perpetrators of the vile acts against the Muslim people. But the average Muslim teenager in Bradford just jumps on the band wagon of the so called put down of the western dogs, that's me and you by the way. That is the problem with a lot of these idealists, they can only see what they want to see and they will stick with it like a rabid dog trawling out the same tripe again and again, with the lefties who think it is very okay yar or right on radical to put down the doings of any government in the west.
There will always be a war for some reason in this world so why not manipulate it in order to keep our place in the world order and keep us as priority number one.
By the way, these young Muslim radicals don't want to integrate, they want to Dominate.
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[igiyf]

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[Skudd]

[igiyf]

your rather dull..gods love still shines down on you my brother..we are as one..

more people have died from booze then terrorism..ur more likely to die of a bee sting..if only you could look around you and really place the bits together..the fear is installed by the media..not the terrorists..to send stupid little fools such as your self running for the hills in fear where you shall meet your dear..problem(spazstic)reaction(spazstic)solution(spazfuckingstick)

[igiyf]

ever notice how on the night they started bombing iraq..in the most recent war..as the bombs were falling..the people were just driving about as normal?..was this due to stupidness?

no its cos they face facts and get the fuck on with it,the "war on terror" is creating terrorism,the almost constant media coverage of some aspect of terrorism or other is delivering psychological terro.. what you focus on you GET. with everything the police are doing to stop people committing acts of terro,,and they are doing more than ever now..people really need to hear daily just how close they are to facing it..right
"the terrorist want to scare us and take away our freedom-to combat this problem we will slowly have to chip away at this nations freedom and constantly live in a state of fear"

if they really really wanted to combat terrorism the thinking point put forward to this nation and America would be one along the line of " do not let it effect your life..move forwards,stand strong..never ever let it get to you"
by paying them little attention it soon wouldt work would it.,but noooo why have "muslims bombs bomb oh death die die die evil grr teeeerrfuckingorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr arrrrrrrrrrgh be scared little peoples be scared"

its kinda sad they send the only people (solders) who are willing to die for there countrys freedom a few 1000 miles away from that country..we need people willing to lay it down for freedom and not be terrified with the littlest of pressures here at home.

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

[pa_broon74]

[colin1]

The use of Sharia law in the uk, would just be like a form of arbitration.

Like judge judy on the tv. Both parties go to someone and agree to accept the judgement of the 'judge'. The 'judge' then hears both sides and makes a ruling.

Arbitration is often used for employee and employer disputes to save going to court.

Sharia law would just be used in that way. It wouldnt be interfering with UK law, and sanctioning the stoning of adulterers or something.
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[pa_broon74]

[igiyf]

i personally believe that the death of a person for religious purposes is justified when and if only that person decides to die for there religion and by there own hands only. the 40 per cent support of sharia law in the UK has as much impact upon me as the statement 40% of bikers don't buy road tax"!its bullshit the media have there Given talking points..i don't believe its just a happy coincidence for the government that the media are pushing terrorist propaganda.. the media is controlled. its a sad state of affairs

[thegubner]

[pa_broon74]

[igiyf]

People do take their lives due to their religion, trouble is they tend to take others with them.
Name me a few instances..



If the government controlled the media, why are they getting the shit kicked out of them by huge sections of the press?

There not getting the shit kicked out of them,there being tickled by the press.its all part of the show.. popcorn anyone?

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

[Didge]

[igiyf]