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chris-red
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PostPosted: 07:27 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Leaving indicators on Reply with quote

Hi all,

My mate just failed his test because he keeps leaving his indicators on, I have never had this problem and couldn't really give too much advice. He told me before the test that was his only worry.

Personally I can't see how hard it can be as I rarely do it. Can anyone advise?
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PostPosted: 07:40 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was a bit worry of mine also until the bike I was given to ride on test day (the bike I did DAS on was accidently lent to someone else) made a horrible loud out of tune beeping noise, when I put indicators on I'd see pedestrians looking around and thinking what the hell is that noise Thumbs Up bit embarrassing but it works Laughing Does your mates riding school not have bikes with the indicator beeper thing on? Maybe he/she just needs more road experience until cancelling the indicators becomes automatic.
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PostPosted: 07:41 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Re: Leaving indicators on Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Hi all,

My mate just failed his test because he keeps leaving his indicators on, I have never had this problem and couldn't really give too much advice. He told me before the test that was his only worry.

Personally I can't see how hard it can be as I rarely do it. Can anyone advise?

Yeah I used to have this problem. The bike I hope to do my test on has a beeping noise to remind me to turn them off, but the best thing I was told was 'every time you exit a corner, CAC yourself: Cancel indicators, Accelerate, Check mirrors'. Works a treat, now I never leave them on.
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PostPosted: 08:00 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you drive a car start cancelling them in that too, it becomes habit after a while. Try and make it a post corner ritual (as above), cancel, mirror, accelerate, works for me, I even find i'm pushing the button to cancel even if i'm going straight on at lights etc and i don't have any indicators on. Laughing
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chris-red
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PostPosted: 08:26 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

They suggested to him that everytime he changed gear to push the indi switch. I'll let him know about the beeping thingys.
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PostPosted: 08:40 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a habit of pressing the cancel a few times. Just in case I haven't pressed hard enough. Still leave them on occasionally.

Just a matter of drilling yourself for the period of the test. Not a lot of advice to give in this instance.
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PostPosted: 08:56 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bike has one of these stupid slidey switches to do left/cancel/right, so after cancelling one its possible to switch on the other on! I just got back from Maplin where I bought an alarm type thing to fit as an indicator beeper (or should that be siren?), so that's one less issue!

I can easily see how it can be forgotten though, even with a decent indicator switch. Mainly if you are distracted by a hazard ahead you may forget the switch, similarly if something breaks the routine you have for cancelling it (e.g parked car around corner, you slow to let it pass and forget your indicator and instead just do checks).
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im-a-Ridah wrote:
My bike has one of these stupid slidey switches to do left/cancel/right, so after cancelling one its possible to switch on the other on!

I had one of those on my 125 and it's incredibly annoying when you do that, though it's very easy to do with winter gloves on.

Im-a-Ridah wrote:
I can easily see how it can be forgotten though, even with a decent indicator switch. Mainly if you are distracted by a hazard ahead you may forget the switch, similarly if something breaks the routine you have for cancelling it (e.g parked car around corner, you slow to let it pass and forget your indicator and instead just do checks).

This was exactly my problem. To be honest the best thing I found was doing the CAC routine as written about above, and spending hours on the bike. The more my CAC was interrupted by pedestrians, queues of traffic, crossings, etc. the better I got at remembering to deal with it anyway after dealing with the hazard.

I have no magic answer other than to keep riding racking up hours on the road and keep reminding yourself to check it as advised above. That eventually worked for me. And yeah I do sometimes check it when I don't need to but hey Wink
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

306ian wrote:
It was a bit worry of mine also until the bike I was given to ride on test day (the bike I did DAS on was accidently lent to someone else) made a horrible loud out of tune beeping noise, when I put indicators on I'd see pedestrians looking around and thinking what the hell is that noise Thumbs Up bit embarrassing but it works Laughing Does your mates riding school not have bikes with the indicator beeper thing on? Maybe he/she just needs more road experience until cancelling the indicators becomes automatic.


Any idea where to get one of these from?
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
306ian wrote:
It was a bit worry of mine also until the bike I was given to ride on test day (the bike I did DAS on was accidently lent to someone else) made a horrible loud out of tune beeping noise, when I put indicators on I'd see pedestrians looking around and thinking what the hell is that noise Thumbs Up bit embarrassing but it works Laughing Does your mates riding school not have bikes with the indicator beeper thing on? Maybe he/she just needs more road experience until cancelling the indicators becomes automatic.


Any idea where to get one of these from?


A 12v buzzer/beeper/alarm from Maplin electronics would be cheaper at around £2 - £3.
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.audicator.com/audicator.htm

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Im-a-Ridah
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

306ian wrote:
https://www.audicator.com/audicator.htm

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Hense my post about buying a 12v buzzer/alarm from Maplin for £2 - £3 Wink
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Re: Leaving indicators on Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Hi all,

My mate just failed his test because he keeps leaving his indicators on, I have never had this problem and couldn't really give too much advice. He told me before the test that was his only worry.

Personally I can't see how hard it can be as I rarely do it. Can anyone advise?


Not a problem for me either however my instructor recomended puching cancel three times like an OCD personality on crack cocaine everytime you use them just to make it dosn't happen on your test.
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I developed an obsessive indicator-cancelling tick to the point that whenever I'm on a trackday I find my thumb wandering to the cancel button whenever I go through a chicane. Brick Wall
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PostPosted: 16:09 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you wanna go a bit extreme

buy a helmet with a built in bluetooh system

get a mate to follow you and the instructor on the practical test and open a call to your mate in the car, so he can tell you to turn indicators off when you leave them on for too long Smile

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PostPosted: 18:16 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is one of them things that just needs the 30 mins of focus on the test. Just get into a habit and stick to it.

We all do it, on ride outs with a few bikes you can gurantee that at least one will do it at some point during the ride

So easily done, in a car you can hear the ticking, on a bike you cant, unless you are stopped with the engine off, then you can (yes i wondered why my bike was ticking when i first noticed this, then wondered how long it had been on for). Smile
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigup wrote:
if you wanna go a bit extreme

buy a helmet with a built in bluetooh system

get a mate to follow you and the instructor on the practical test and open a call to your mate in the car, so he can tell you to turn indicators off when you leave them on for too long Smile

job done

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That's not a bad idea.

Not for indicators, though, which I don't struggle with. But it might be an idea to get a mate in a car to hassle the examiner, block the view, etc.

My brother drives an HGV.
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PostPosted: 07:26 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've never really suffered from this indicator thing, chris, is your mate already a driver by any chance?

Apparantly car drivers leave their bike indis on alot because they rely on the auto-cancel function.

On the bike i have a bad habbit of ensuring my indi's are on, so i'll maybe flick the switch 2-3 times, i often get caught checking im in first gear at junctions and then when my indi's are off i check them about 3 times as well Very Happy
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I press the button alot aswell, and of course, I've found myself wondering why they were still on a few times Laughing

I found that changing bikes between my 125 and DAS bike for the first couple mins i would forget more, but after a little while it was OK, when I test rode the CB I'm sure I left them on about 2/3 times in the space of 25mins.

Just get into the complusive indicator cancelling habit, it works for 90% of the time (which is probably good enough for the test).
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

metalforever wrote:
On the bike i have a bad habbit of ensuring my indi's are on, so i'll maybe flick the switch 2-3 times, i often get caught checking im in first gear at junctions and then when my indi's are off i check them about 3 times as well Very Happy

In the mental health world that's normally called OCD. Laughing Though I guess we call that avoiding a t-bone. Wink
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PostPosted: 13:27 - 10 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont even worry if i've left mine on because I go through a system after using them:

Straighten up the bike,
Check mirrors,
Cancel indicators

dont really think about it as i've done it so much lol
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 10 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once you switch the indicator on keep your indicator switch covered with your finger, that way you can never forget.
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