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AcIdBuRnZ
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PostPosted: 03:14 - 27 Mar 2004    Post subject: Carrying a Pillion Reply with quote

Hi,

As many of you know I passed my test recently...

...and with 2 younger brothers (16+19) who are bike daft (offroad) I was being nagged for a ride mintue I passed!!!

I've had them both out on the NSR. One is slightly better pillion than the other.

Just wanted to ask for any tips\advice?

The bike feels totally different. Do I need to change the tyre pressures or anything? Cornering confidence is way down too...

Cheers guys
Mark
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Steve H
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 27 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyre pressures are advisable to change (although in practice unless it's a planned trip how many of us do it!), as are suspension settings if you can. The extra weight on the rear makes your front end light thus causing it to feel slightly 'feathery'.

I always make it clear that I'm the gaffer on the bike prior to riding and the passenger should bow to my every command (doesn't go down to well with my wife!). Personally I think this is a must as you need to have 100% confidence that your passenger isn't going to act irresponsibly causing you to lose control of the bike.

Being a good passenger is on a par with being a good rider, ride time and experience are of real benefit as is knowledge and road sense.
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PostPosted: 09:54 - 27 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been thinking alot about this too. Back tyre pressure should be increased from 33 to 35 according to the sticker on the swingarm if you're taking a pillion. I've had a couple of people on the back of my bike just going in a straght line down some where quiet. Not really fast though. I did find the faster you went the easier it seemed to get. I'm dreading having to take someone through town round all the corners at low speeds.
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True Blue
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 27 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've only had a pillion on the back of the NSR once and even then only for a short distance. I didn't feel to comfortable with it though.
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Bendy
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 27 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Practice.

I don't like taking pillions much, but I attribute most of that to the fact that I don't do it very much, and so it feels completely alien when I do.

Also, I always seem to get big blokes on the back of my bike and that just feels horrible at low speed - all that extra weight sitting up and behind. On the rare occassion I get a little person on the back, it doesn't bother me nearly as much.
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hugo-a-gogo
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 27 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

tell them not to move about
As you are slowing down they think that is the perfect time to change position
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Major_Grooves
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 27 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I take my girlfriend pillion nearly everyday. I think most new pillions think it is okay to move around when you are slowing down, but it is probably the opposite.

One of our first problems was when she was holding on to me she would occasionally give me a "hug of love" which would be a bit startling. We've managed to stop that nonsense now though! Wink

Tell them not to turn their body to look at things as you go past as you can really feel the bike move the other way.
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craigT19
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 27 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have a pillion all the time...the only tip i can give is combined braking, use your back brake and front brake together, it stops the bike from rocking, and so the passenger doesnt move around.
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mr.z
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 27 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

craigT19 wrote:
... use your back brake and front brake together, it stops the bike from rocking, and so the passenger doesnt move around.


Tis true, due to the extra weight on the back end you can get away with useing allot more back brake and the passenger is less likeley to slide forward..
I take a passenger quite often, i allways tell them now make sure not to move when we are comeing to a stop or going slow, absoloutely the worst :/ yet again im posting a link to this site but it is all very good advice and worth trawling through..
https://www.survivalskills.clara.net/riding_skills_37.htm
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ProXimaCore
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 27 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

zero wrote:
https://www.survivalskills.clara.net/riding_skills_37.htm


Laughing Maybe you should just put it as your signature. Smile
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ZaphodBeeble
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PostPosted: 01:26 - 28 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

True Blue wrote:
I've only had a pillion on the back of the NSR once and even then only for a short distance. I didn't feel to comfortable with it though.


I rode my brother's NSR a couple of weeks ago for a 20 mile trip with him on the back, didn't really make me worried at all, felt really stable and I even banked it right over around a couple of roundabouts. It was pulling us both along up a slight hill at 85mph. It's a fun bike to ride even with a pillion. (That's the only way I have rode it hehe) Thumbs Up Smile
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priller
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 29 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had pillions on the back of a RS125, doesn't effect the handling too much, but the slopped seat doesn't help them stay on. Needless to say the pillion fell off at 40mph.
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 29 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Double post, oops.

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AcIdBuRnZ
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 29 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've had 2 pillions fall off at 40mph?

Gee...that IS unlucky Laughing Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: 21:07 - 29 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Laughing Maybe you should just put it as your signature.


Very Happy Have now! now i can say check the sig instead of scrambling around for the url Smile

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It was pulling us both along up a slight hill at 85mph


Flipin eck, derestricted i'm guessing? thats 2-strokes for you Very Happy[/quote]
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