Ambulance Service Refuse To Attend

[Kickstart]

Hi

https://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Ambulance-service-says-sorry-for.4413309.jp

Basically they refused to send an ambulance for someone injured because a private medical company was covering the event.

All the best

Keith
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Ree fucking diculous
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[Ichy]

Can't say I agree with the operator in any way at all but if you are paying for a private ambulance company you would expect them to provide an ambulance.

She was following the process laid down by her bosses, probably a little too extremely but I would certainly pass some blame onto the private company, obviously it would have affected their profit to provide the service paid for.
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[Benj]

thats MENTAL.....


isnt the point of an EMERGENCY ambulance to save lives?


..im shocked that they were refusing to send 1....truely shocked.
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[bigwill]

this kind of shit really gets my back up!! We are so blinded by bullshit and rules and regulations in this country now, jobsworth arseholes like that manager dont have human morals and forget to think "this kid could die and i can help him". They would rather let him die and get the fucking rules right. People like them need the rule book tearing out of their arse! fucking politics.

Wankers.

(rant over)
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[pa_broon74]

Fuck me!

This is my area of Scotland and I work for the NHS here, that is shocking, the shift manager should be sacked for gross misconduct.

They won't be though, its the NHS, she was probably following the rules. People like this do my head in, we have them here in the office but they're not in a position to cause harm even by inaction (something NHS staff are pretty fucking good at...)

Outragious... That link is going round the office...


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Didn't catch anything.

[iooi]

Perhaps the orginisers running the event should be having a few words with the private medical co about why they did not have the facilities ready to deal with such a event, which to be honest they should have.

While i don't agree with the way the manager seems to have acted, i do think she had a valid point in that if they have paid for private medical cover, they should be transporting the rider to hospital, not expecting the NHS to cover it.

Lets face it at any track race or F1 race where these facilites are provided do they call out the NHS to transport the injured drivers to hospital.

Every event like this i have been to has always had a ambulance on site, and if they have to leave to take someone to hospital, then the racing stops if there are no more till it returns.

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[pa_broon74]

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[LustyLew]

Even with my background I can't help but think the NHS call manger was wrong.

I do volunteer first aid & ambulance work, as well as privately and for the LAS.

Depending on risk assessments and what the organizer wants it's not uncommon to just have attendants on site without an ambulance dedicated to transport to hospital. I've done many Karate and Kick Boxing events that have had no vehicle to transport provided.

Every ambulance service (be it private or NHS) when covering an even has to make a risk assessment. I suspect that a copy wasn't sent to the NHS Ambulance HQ so they werent aware of the event and the risk it entailed.

Still shit if you ask me. Considering the number of drunks we have to ferry around simply because they say "I want to goto hospital". Say that and we cannot refuse.
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[Dom_]

This is exactly why jobsworth women should not be allowed positions of power.

[iooi]

[pa_broon74]

Not sure I agree on it being mandatory, that is what 999 is for. People cross the road all the time, they don't have ambulances standing by on high streets.

I know motocross is high risk, I think they have Ambulance cover out at the racing at East Fortune (Not sure what class it is.)

The first aiders on site probably had enough equipment with them to cover the same as an ambulance could manage, having an ambulance present would only be an advantage in terms of saving 5 or 10 minutes in transport.

Also, its bloody expensive arranging ambulance cover, I imagine a lot of these events couldn't absorb the cost and would just fold.

Agree with the bright spark manager point though. They have meetings to think up arse-ended ideas like this, the shift manager should still have had the common sense to do the right thing though, she should atleast be stripped of this particular responsibility.


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[Kal]

[Timmeh]

Sickening.

On a similar note, on Panorama last week we were told that if you go private because the NHS refuses to supply you with a particular drug, you then have to pay for every NHS facility, including blood tests and x-rays etc.

So you're being punished for giving the NHS financial support.

This country fucking sucks.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

That has pretty much always been the case. For example, go for private treatment and they find complications and transfer you to the NHS then you will be billed for the NHS treatment. Which could easily be over the limit of your private health insurance.

All the best

Keith
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[kawakid]

Scum bag civil servants following procedure, nothing will be done, sack proof, to worried about her flexi leave and 7 weeks holiday.

Hate em, useless , school like pricks.

And I have worked for the civil service. Its not a real job, its for morons who can't get real jobs.
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[colin1]

I think the manager was focused on the wrong things.

I dont know the severity of the injuries, but if there was a possibility of neck or back injuries, moving him without proper equipment could cause him lasting permanent damage.

Its sad that it takes an ombudsman to be able to spot this.

Yes risky sports may make more demands on nhs resources, but they had helped a bit by having someone on site who administered first aid. I dont think its reasonable to expect the site to provide full emergency cover. I have seen St Johns ambulance at some events, but they probably cant be everywhere.

The NHS system of free healthcare for all within certain limits, should include emergency response.

I cant even say that the guy should get compensation, as that doesnt punish the bad decision, it just costs the nhs more money.

I guess demoting the crap manager would be a good thing.
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[st3v3]

Shocking. So I'm guessing the tax payers attending the event, in any form also couldn't get an Ambulance? As it was covered by private care? Disgusting.
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[Kal]

We have accidents at our events. Sometimes worse than others. We have our medical cover run by an experienced combat medic who has never lost a patient.

I can say without a shadow of a doubt that if we require an ambulance he will not allow the St.Johns to provide it.
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