derbi senda

[andy_aerox]

hi, i have just bought a derbi senda 06 plate, as i sold my scooter after realizing there the worst things ever.

the bike is really slow and wanting to add a bit more performance by adding a pipe does anyone have one for sale or know any decent websites.

cheers
Andy

[neatbik]

Which is it mate? 50cc or 125cc?

[andy_aerox]

oh yes sorry i forgot to mention that it is the 50cc

cheers

[neatbik]

Chances are its restricted to 30 mph, as per the learner law.
Im not sure how they are restricted but im guessing someone will be along soon with more of an idea.
What kind of speed are you getting out of it?

[chillpill]

get a big bore kit before anything else they add the most hp's per pound, i think you can get the here www.pmtuning.co.uk or here www.malossiuk.com not sure about this one but if they do sell them theyll be the cheapest as there a euro site www.scooter-center.com

alex

[andy_aerox]

well im getting about 45 mph down a hill i have been told it is de restricted so who noes....

i know with a pipe and a sprocket change they are quite oright doing 55 - 60 so that will please me.

if i can find a pipe anyway.

cheers

[andy_aerox]

to be honest mate i don't fancy a bore kit they put too much strain on bottom end they just cannot take it were as a pipe doesn't put too much strain on bottom end just need to find a decent pipe any ideas?
i have heard the metrekit pipe system is a really good one what you think?

cheers
Andy

[chillpill]

metrakit are a decent makebut id find some dynio graphs before making a purchase different pipes can make a massive difference

bore kit shouldnt put a massive strain on the bottom end , at the end of the day it only takes as much strain as you rag it

alex

[andy_aerox]

yes yes i know but the thing is i cant find any pipes for it. see if you can find any matey im struggling to be honest.


yes i suppose i had a bore kit on my scooter and iver a long term period its not worth it get a lot less fuel for your money and just other little bits i would definetly not put one on.

cheers for replying though mate i appreciate it.

[tutton]

And bore kits arnt good for your crank...

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Derbi-Senda-50-DRD-Edition-SM50-SM-50-05-06-Exhaust_W0QQitemZ180207367046QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116
Arrow exhaust

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Derbi-Senda-SM-Leo-Vinci-V6-Performance-Exhaust_W0QQitemZ320160628512QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116
leo vinci
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[chillpill]

went on pmtuning took me about 30 seconds to find a good pipe , the yasuni one look decent and there one of the best brands for scooter pipes so im sure there bike ones will be decent aswell

https://www.pmtuning.co.uk/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PT&Product_Code=01-YA230&Category_Code=001SENDA2000

alex

[tutton]

[andy_aerox]

cheers mate im liking that leovince pipe you know what they are like power wise?

just wondered what the best pipe is for a derbi senda

cheers

[tutton]

they all make the same really,
theres not huge gains or noticeable gains with a measureable speed with them really, just go for a big name, and get the jetting right
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[andy_aerox]

yes mate thats it i was having trouble finding one for an 06 they all seem to go to 2005... obviously made a change on 2006 one.

cheers though for help

[chillpill]

my bad

they do make a difference , you want one that works well at lower rev ranges if your using it on the standard barrel, the leo vinci should be ok for that but have nver been a good brand in my opinion , there scooter pipers were wank aswell, but on a standard barrel it will be fine

alex

[tutton]

Tbh ive never heard of a yasuni...
i searched a few names id heard of, and had mates with them.
and what are you on about with standard barell, a bigger bore/barell will give you more power across the range as its in theory making the cylinder 80cc size and not 50cc. how is that going to make power better low down on either size?
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[andy_aerox]

well i think leovince is quite a good make but thats my opinion they aren't the best on the market.

i am thinking metrekit for me but does anyone have any idea what is the best pipe is?

cheers andy

[chillpill]

[andy_aerox]

cheers lad for help i have to call it a night i have got college bright and early so hopefully overnight ill get some reviews on some pipes so i know what i am actually looking for.

cheers really appreciate it.

Andy

[tutton]

Thats not really true
all 50 exhausts ive seen so far are designed for the powerband, to make the most amount of exhaust gas to help with back pressure.

Besides, metrakit is also a good brand also good if you want to buy a metrakit 21mm carb to make it faster that way too.
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[chillpill]

[truslack]

My Derbi Senda (admittedly with the restriction knocked out) used to kick out about 55mph on a good day on the flat.

That was a 2003 model Derbi Senda R (the offroad version, on knobblies).
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[andy_aerox]

well mine definitely does not do that....... so im still stuck what pipe to get what would you say is the best ?

cheers
Andy

[JakeyR]

I went to bike-spares.co.uk for my Senda bits

But i never put a pipe or fuck all on it, it did about 55 flat to the tits (2005 sm50)

I just left it and used it for stoppies.
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