China Import's!

[WIBBLA]

Hey everyone just thought i would let anyone that owns a imported Sanya motorbike, these are the main Motorbikes in China and slowly coming over here but with a bad name at the moment, Well hopefully this may help some of you owners there is a Club for you all..

www.sanyaclub.co.uk

It was formed by myself and a good friend so please feel free if you own one to come and join us!

Thanks

Craig

[MarJay]

[Finglonga]

Hope its got a good workshop section.
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[petemell]

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[sanchezz_182]

[Wise1]

Chinese Steel = tin Foil

But yet all these bikes use it, thats why they rust and fall apart so fast.
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[WIBBLA]

I didnt think me posting this would get such a childish response! Just proves to show alot of you don't know what you are on about, You will find 70% of most bike parts are made in China!


I own a Sanya SY125-11 and have not had one problem with it in fact it was the CG125 from Honda that was the bain of my life so goes to show that every bike has it's faults,

Sanya have been going for 10+ years and supply 90% of China's bike's Sanya is like Yamaha here to them, Value for money its called and if looked after it will serve well!

Anyway thanks for the support!

[Moonie]

Yes, made in China by non-Chinese metal with non-Chinese materials.

Ok my mate bought a Skyco 125 (supposed to be one of the "good" ones) and so far the front break disc has warped, exhasut is falling off, he bent the gear selector by changing gear too hard and the engine is eating itself, it sounds shat. He has had it 2 weeks.
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[Wise1]

I am not saying every Chinese bike is crap, just most of them.

Some models are starting to mature, but they still have some time to go.

I know Jinlun is generally starting to become more accepted as a quality bike that is more reliable than it was however it still has problems. I was standing outstide a Honda Dealer last week when the 250cc pulled up and I was quite impressed by the design and quality.

However when you see bikes like the Kaisar 125 selling for as little as £899.00 against the likes of a CBR 125 at £2,650 or my own Kymco at £2,600 then its obvious quality is suffering.

As Moonie says, yes many parts are made in China these days for Honda, Kawa, Suzy and others but they are made to much more stringent standards using better quality material than most Chinese Bike builders are willing to use to keep the price down.

And I dont care what anyone says, when it comes to me riding along at 50 mph or cornering on a sharp bend I dont want to be an £899 chinese bike!

Nobody is being childish, but many have experienced or know others tales of owning Chinese and some are not pleasant. Just search the forums for more info.

I am more than happy to support new entrants into the market but not at the cost of safety and quality, on two wheels you just cant comprimise.
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[Bofh5]

Oh please.......

I've yet to see one of these "quality" machines that isn't rotting by the side of the road.

Poor kid down the road from me bought one and was proudly riding his shiny new bike around for all of 3 days before someone sneezed next to it and the side stand fell apart.

I'd walk past it 2 - 3 times a week and the rust was eating it away like those underwater titanic pics.

Yes they are tempting at £700 ish for a shiny new bike and the blurb on the ads sounds great. The reality though is far different.
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[MarJay]

Apparently China have legislation to prevent the 'poorest' quality bikes from being exported. So basically Lifan etc are the best of a bad bunch.

Lets face it, you cannot sell a bike brand new for £800 and expect it to last. I suspect if they doubled their investment on materials and (more importantly) material preparation processes, they might make bikes that lasted.

But then, they have never heard of tolerances or precision machining either...
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[petemell]

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[panrider_uk]

I suspect that if the internet had been arouind in the 60's we'd see a similar discussion re British bike vs "jap crap" bikes.

Likewise Datsun cars.

They may have started out poorer quality but they soon improved and took over the market.


Mark
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[Moonie]

Yep eventually they did.

For now, they are poorly made to the point of being incredibly dangerous (e.g. Mattsprattuk's frame snapping at the headstock) and I will do anything I can to keep someone off one.
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[prawny1]

The only way to stop the crap stuff coming over here is to only buy the good/better quality bikes.

As long as the completely useless poor quality stuff is being gobbled up importers will keep buying those cheapest models, If no one bought the crap then maybe the importers would search out some better quality chinese bikes rather than importing the cheapest to make the most profit from.

[Hetzer]

99% of stuff out of china other than textiles is utter shite, unless they have a westerner overseeing every step of the manufacturing process.
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[panrider_uk]

They're going to be a world player in carbon fibre soon (CF is textile based of course).

Mark
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[Dragonfly]

[petemell]

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[kawashima]

Is there any quality assurance?
Do you actually think of customer's safety?
Do you actually think of customer's satisfaction?
Is your goal just to get money?
Do you actually think making half priced bike is customer's satisfaction?
What do you think the difference between Sanya and Chongqing Jianshe Yamaha Motor Co., Ltd. (CJYM) which makes YBR125 in china?
Why do you try to sell in europe not in asia first?
Korea and japan is closer than europe.
Why you don't sell your bike directly in europe in your brand name?
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[LeeR]

I'm gonna keep it brief coz I got bored with this a long time ago:

Datsun never made a car that was worse than a BL
Honda set out to win a TT and did it in around 20 years
The Japs put pride (and US/EU money) into their industry post-WWII

Chinese bikes are crap.
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[ThoughtContro...]

Hyosung are Korean not Chinese. I read somewhere that they make engines for Suzuki. Better build quality than the chinese but with a price to match. You get what you pay for as usual. Some nice big bikes for 125s (Comet and GT) but resale values don't appear to be too good, maybe because people think they're chinese.